[QUOTE]Originally posted by travlin'easy:
[b]Here we go again!


Gary ....lol.....your excactly right!






[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-19-2010).]

Good one Gary.

If they all had any freeking brains they would test this stuff! Fix all bugs..sound issues etc. before they ship them, and charge for updates that add features sounds or styles.

A keyboard should be a 5 year investment...or more. not this 1-2 year crap.

It's a racket and we play right along don't we?

Lee S

Not really,.... when your a pro working player making 100's of times OVER what you invested initially and make money every day with that Unit....
I'd say thats a pretty good deal at any price...



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-19-2010).]

It seems that we will never learn the full potential of our instruments, and we are so brainwashed to buy the new and out with the old that it is like a drug addict trying to get a new dose. Hmmmm, I wonder who buys the old stuff? people looking to get a bargain? people who don't care about technology? stupid people? I wonder. What happened to the economic crisis? who can afford a 5000 dollar keyboard with such little wages that we already get?

Don't be so naive to think people dont have money, stop by your nearest Casino and see that they are Packed with people throwing money into the gaming industry 24/7.. and that's only one example, try broadway shows at $200.00 a tcket, Sports events, Concert enues, vactioners, & the list goes on and on...no money? bahahahahahahah........
many just put up the poverty facade as they laugh all the way to the bank meanwhile enjoying life....and btw, buying used is a good thing sometimes also...

PS, many of the ings that make me happy in life are FREE..

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-19-2010).]

I buy two new keyboards every two to three years, and it only costs me around $0.50 a gig. Big deal if you lose a little money upgrading. It's a hobby.

Beakybird

Donny,
Beakybird,
Your the exception for sure...what % of arranger buyers do you think GIG out for big $$ like your talking about...Very small.
Hundreds of times the money you spend for keyboards...??? At 200 times that's $800,000 eery two years...are a lot of you guys making that kind of Money playing out with an arranger??

I would bet you only 5% of arranger buyers are in the giging PRO category...remember SZ is not representative of all those buyers. All the kids, Older folks that used to have organs...guys like me playing for fun and famaily etc.

Lee S.

Whoa, there's some exaggeration here. If you kept your T3 in pristine condition and throw in some styles and goodies with the sale, you're only going to lose approximately $750, maybe $1000 tops on the sale.

Yamaha has been coming out with keyboards usually every three years. So you're talking about $333 a year tops to play the latest model.

Beakybird

Completely agree with #2 and #3, but pray tell me, oh marketing guru, why Roland should have brought out ANOTHER G model when the G70 was already a disaster for reason's 2 & 3? The updates they DID add didn't address #3, and #2 would have made sales of any new model just as poor...

The incremental upgrade path only makes sense if what you are selling NOW is already very popular. But an incremental upgrade to something already long in the tooth and marketed so poorly... it is unlikely any more would have seen and heard and played it as did the G70 (and that wasn't many!)

Please don't tell me you HONESTLY think that Roland would have been better off bringing out a G80 with the OSv3 features on it, rather than upgrading the G70! I know I certainly wouldn't have bought it, and I doubt anyone else would have, either. I guess it's a good job none of these arranger manufacturers listens to YOU for advice!