Good and compact conclusion from Diki: “… But how are they going to get you to sell your T4 and buy a T5 (and then the T6, T7... T1000) if they do?”

My goal for this thread was …

1. To inform many keyboard buyers that SA/SA2 voices in styles (T4) is a significant step forward. That alone will make a T4 “more” “future proof”. With also the new vocal voices and that capability (of articulation in styles) the musical limits are now up to you, the player. On T2 and T3 that capability is “locked” and therefore not as much “future proof”. A keyboard should newer restrict or limit a player. Now I also see that the added musical palette (vocal voices) on T4 is making the palette of voices whole and complete. Vocal voices are now here to stay. That´s also “future proof”. Now the music is only limited by you, the player and not by a stupid software lock …

2. Each and every player has to be informed and aware to make good decisions. For me I took a chance 2008 to skip T3 (because I first wanted to be informed about the approaching release of Ketron Audya). One month ago my plan was to go for an Audya5 when info came about the “early” release of T4. So, to get “the most of two worlds”, should one go for a T4 now and one of the Audya´s later? Or perhaps an Audya now and a T5/T6 later? Personally, it´s very likely it´s going to be a T4 this year and skipping T5. The Tyros line with the T4 has now reached a good enough level of saturated musical potential or in other words more “future proof”. What could a future T5 have to make you depart from a T4? Now is the time to concentrate on developing playing skills instead of exchanging (costly) hardware every second or third year.

3. As for the question about SA/SA2 in multipads it would sure be nice but not as important as it is for styles . My point is that to inspire many to forward feedback to Yamaha that we don´t like stupid restricting software locks. Let the power free of the keyboards hardware and software. Let instead the player be the limiting factor. It should cost Yamaha next to nothing to make away with the lock. Better for everyone in the broad longer perspective but perhaps not as good for the profit in the shorter perspective. Keyboard makers care about goodwill, so let us take our “pitch forks” and collectively forward the message to Yamaha and other keyboard makers to hopefully help and inspire them to make better decisions. (“Do to others what you want them to do to you”. If I had the power to make decisions for the Yamaha Keyboard group I would have implemented the policy of never restricting actual existing hardware by unnecessary software locks …)

4. Many businesses nowadays release software updates in the form of free bug fixes and optional upgrades. I think Yamaha could do better in that department. I think I´ll stay positive in my expectation that Yamaha in some time will release optional software updates that unlock the SA/SA2 voices for multitabs on T4.

5. Personal view: I think the only missing voice to add to the existing T4 voice palette would be the unique sound of the resonator guitar also called dobro. A SA2 Jerry Douglas Dobro would be great and so useful in many musical genres. Also perfectly suited for multipad phrases. Of course, for multipads upgraded to SA2 (through “YOSUS”, the Yamaha Optional Software Upgrade Service ). See also http://www.yamahapkowner.com/forum/index.php?topic=26871.0


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[This message has been edited by Joysound (edited 09-20-2010).]

They could have easily made a 61-note version of the G-70...no speakers, much lighter weight, better screen, and do the fixes on the rest of the bugs(or issues) that were still in the G-70 even after Ver.3.

It would be priced between the PSR-S-series and the Tyros.

They could have added an arp, analog sliders for real-time filter control...and whatever else was new in their pro workstations or pianos...SuperNatural, for instance.

That would be a good start.

And, as you have found out much to your own chagrin...advice is like Castor oil...easy to give, but hard to take.

Welcome to the real world.

Ian

You mean like all the features from the Motif line that Yamaha added to their arrangers?

Why expect Roland to have done something that Almighty Yamaha don't think is a good idea?

And they DID make a lightweight 61 with speakers, based on the G70. It was called the E50. Forget that, did you?

If I were you, I'd take a little LESS of that caster oil you are drinking (or are you smoking it? )

Hardly...the E-80 was closer to the G-70.

And, I wrote without speakers.

You see, the instrument I described would be in a marketing/price slot that no one is really addressing...yet.

Castor oil is useful for cleansing debris out of the eyes...but it won't cure your short-sightedness or tunnel vision.

For that you'll need a positive outlook on life, something with which you are obviously not familiar.

Ian

If Yamaha are not addressing it, then by your own stated logic, it doesn't NEED addressing. I can hardly believe my eyes to see you admit FINALLY that it MIGHT be possible that Yamaha are not making something that there is a legitimate need for. Ah, but I forgot. This is something that YOU see a need for, which makes it important...

As opposed to something many of the rest of us consider important. Which you DON'T.

Hubris... it's not just for breakfast any more!

I'm enjoying this V8....ice cold....great way to wake up.