I am not a Tyros fan and have no real Yamaha arranger experience except for a 2nd hand T1 that i used a few weeks.

Out of the box Audya and Korg styles sound more "live" to me...

But with some tweaking it should be possible to give those yamaha factory styles a lot more live feeling..

-Use a filter to give the drums more kick and punch
-Give the drums and the bass tracks some more volume.
-Use effects and tweak the guitar sounds to sound more live..
-Move the Bass a little to the left and the guitar a little to the right in the stereo spectrum...
-remove the other tracks from the mix.

All in all this should make up for a more lively sound.... much cleaner styles.


Needles to say this is just my simple view on things without any hands on Yamaha arranger experience..

[This message has been edited by Bachus (edited 09-20-2010).]

Bachus,

an easier way would be just to place an AUDYA just beneath it on your keyboard stand

Best way to optimize the Tyros is with EQ & CMP. It then really come to life. Lot of usful info on the link below.
http://psrtutorial.com/index.html

Graham beat me to the punch. There is a wealth of solid information on this subject on the PSR-Tutorial site and those that have utilized the settings are very happy with the results. Give it a try the next time you get your hands on that Tyros.

Good Luck,

Gary

Thing is, if the Yamaha CAN be made to have more punch and impact, why do Yamaha seem to go to such lengths to make sure that it DOESN'T, OOTB...?

The fact that there are articles up at the Yamaha arranger site detailing how to do this seems to indicate there's a genuine need and desire for it, even by diehard Yamaha fans.

maybe everyone doesn't want that in your face punch sound in their music...but with the CMP & EQ features on the Tyros series it will REALY make a difference....many people dont even know they exists in the unit...

I'm sorry, but for me, at least, the punch and dynamics of an arranger has FAR more to do with the basic sounds and the programming of the style than EQ and compression after the fact. In fact, for ME, I believe an arranger sounds its' liveliest with the LEAST compression on it. All compression does is DECREASE dynamics, not increase them!

It sure helps make them sound like a radio song or CD, as horribly over-compressed and limited as those are now, but you want to sound like a LIVE band, you need all the dynamics you can get

I know that some user settings can help diminish Yamaha's silky smooth muzak sound, but so far, even using those user settings, they still fall short of the impact and liveliness of Ketron's, Korg's and Roland's, IMO. And that has the most to do with the drum samples themselves and the programming of the styles... both FAR harder to fix than a simple EQ and compression curve change.

the reason it does not sound live is simply because Yamaha's primary market for Tyros is ex home organists. People who don't care if they play outside of solo instruments register, they want to mix strings and organ when playing a glen miller arrangement. They don't want live bassists or live drummers because its just not suitable for their style of play. In fact most don't even like much bass unless its the soft 'pom, pompom' of an 8' flute bass note

Yamaha have done a great Job at satifying the needs of the ex organists and a live feel would alienate the bread and butter market, seriously impacting sales.

The minority who use it professionally either have to play in that style or spend quite some time tweeking.




[This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 09-21-2010).]

That stement hits it right on the money!!!

Compression=Not Live, killing the Dynamics so i agree with Diki on this one.
A style can sound Live ONLY if programmed that way, no EQ or CMP would do it.