Please focus on the question of the thread ONLY! This is with regards to ALL Arranger keyboards released bewteen 2000 ~ 2010, which company (in your opinin and why) has shown great renovation (revolutionary ideas, implemented great features ... etc)?

In the last ten years ALL of them have attained great advances due to the advent of modern computer technology and will continue to do so in years to come..just look back at the older models vs today all due to technology advances...there is no winner.

I'd have to say probably Lionstracs. An almost complete re-write of the arranger, revolutionary new capabilities, cutting edge sound quality, true open design, flexibility to improve in the future without buying a brand new model... Nothing else even comes CLOSE.

The fact that they stumbled and fell flat on their faces providing the CONTENT doesn't alter the fact that the machine itself was light years ahead of anything else...

Also again, I misunderstood..This is for arrangers only.

[This message has been edited by miden (edited 09-21-2010).]

Lionstracs and Wersi. Lionstracs has definitely made the most strides but Wersi had a considerable jump on Lionstracs so they had to play catch up. Both offer advances in technology that none of the Big 3 have offered in their arrangers or workstations. It's hard for the Big 3 to catch up when their technology is 5-10 years behind.

Quality, popularity and Sales wise defenetely Korg, they own most of the market but there is other things to it.
And i dont think its fair to put Wersi and Liontracs into this list, they are different worlds.

[This message has been edited by Nedim (edited 09-21-2010).]

Too subjective. Ketron has had several revolutionary releases, including real drums and real guitars. Yamaha has SA voices, but little else really revolutionary.
The Guitar Mode was a good idea but poorly implemented, imo. Ketron's Riffs would be revolutionary if they could be User Programmed, sort of like Roland's real-time Chord Sequencer was.
I don't know if you can call touch screens revolutionary; I can take 'em or leave 'em.
Tremendous strides have been made in on-board vocal harmonizers by everybody except Yamaha, and the T4 claims to have addressed that finally.
Far from revolutionary is the tendency from all the big companies to use outdated computer technology, I suppose in order to save a few bucks. Ketron just now dropped floppy disks, and Roland still haven't, if indeed they are still a player in the totl market.
AJ, I hope you are gathering ideas for future updates!!
DonM

Dennis... after Lionstracs told us for five or six YEARS that it WAS an arranger, I think it's fair to include it in this poll...

I would go for Lionstracs, as they have transformed something that Wersi started, (Openness) but due to limited funds could not progress it as fast as could have been. (However usability wise (Easy for anybody to use) Wersi OAS still leaves Lionstracs in the dust)

The main thing with Wersi though, is that they were the first manufacture that did not tie you in to what the manufacture provided, which to me is the biggest advance ever. (But then I was using computers and VSTi long before I had a Wersi, so was used to NOT being dictated to by the manufacture)

It will be interesting to see how Music Store progress OAS.

Bill

I have to give this one to lionstrack.
They have razed the bar to exploit the concept of integration between arranger technology and synth and workstation technology, between live playing and studio work and midi and audio.
I Think that Lionstrack are way ahead of the game in allowing the player to get what he or she needs from a keyboard.



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