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#296341 - 10/13/10 08:22 AM Re: Touch Screens
FAEbGBD Offline
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Registered: 03/20/01
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Loc: Nashvville TN
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Originally posted by leeboy:
FAEbGBD,
I'm certainly not qualifed to say for sure...but it seems like when you get to the complex deep editing it would not matter to the seeing impaired if it is touch screen or lots of button pushes?

So, I hope ALL Mfgs do keep the seeing impaired in mind and provide an easy button oriented interface. Whether they do the programmig stuff using a touch screen or buttons may not matter?

It seems it would be nice for the deep editing stuff to pull the data to a PC where you could use tools that help the seeing impaired to do editing...then push the changes out? I know some of this is being done already.
Also, maybe some day a phone jack for earphone (earbud)for audio feedback of button pushes and even screen navigation?

What do you think?

Lee S.


Without audio feedback, how would I know where on the screen to touch? OK, from the top left corner, move your finger down y millimeters and across x millimeters and press and hopefully you wil have guessed properly the correct spot to touch on a smooth surface? Nope. Much easier to remember a sequence of button presses, where you can actually feel what you're doing. As far as computer interface, that would be fine as long as the designers built the gui with accessible keystrokes. Usually these things are so mouse dependant there is no accessible method for blind users. Kontakt instruments for example, forget it. I'm surely not one for stopping progress, but it's gonna be a bugger if more and more stuff starts going the way of the touch screen.

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#296342 - 10/13/10 08:38 AM Re: Touch Screens
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
More Buttons & Sliders Please

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#296343 - 10/13/10 09:51 AM Re: Touch Screens
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 1002
Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
Regarding Scott Yee’s reference to the MPP and iPad … I used the MPP for years for lyrics, but when I started using the Midjay – it offers a VGA connection – so I went to an 8” LCD monitor. I used Velcro to mount the monitor to the MPP bracket. I would think that you could Velcro the iPad to the MPP stand bracket as well. I like the 8” monitor because it has a low profile and does the job. Now, if the iPad could receive a VGA-in signal, I would buy one to use as a monitor as I like the size and the fact that it far better in the sunlight, and for several other features. If the MPP could receive VGA-in I would be more than happy. From what I’ve read, both the iPad and MPP can feed a VGA-out, but apparently their respective inner configurations won’t allow them to receive a VGA signal even with one of the many VGA converters available. Nonetheless, I keep hoping that there may be a way to use the MPP or iPad as a monitor with the Midjay …
When I use the Korg PA800, I use the touch screen when I have to or press the buttons when it facilitates the situation - no problems there.
Ciao,
Jerry

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#296344 - 10/13/10 09:53 AM Re: Touch Screens
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Buttons and sliders are NOT cheap! Where did anyone get that impression?

Remember, you not only have to factor in the cost of the button or slider itself, but all the associated circuitry to interpret what it does and input the values (especially sliders) into the OS. You also have to factor in the increase in production cost to install all of the buttons and sliders, then the testing of them. The fewer the buttons, the cheaper the keyboard... If the original DX7 had been made with a button for every function, no-one could have afforded it!

And, let's not get carried away... Do you REALLY want to play something as button heavy as a Wersi or an MS..? Those things look impractical in the extreme for live use, with rows and rows of buttons, all doing something completely different, and one misstep in the middle of a live performance and who KNOWS what you are going to get..?

Maybe we could narrow things down...

What do YOU think is the two or three functions that currently you HAVE to use the screen for, that you would prefer to have on a button or slider? Prioritize your needs.

Here's mine. Octave transposition for Parts is on the screen (surrounded by other functions, although the 'button' area is quite big enough). I would prefer it on a couple of buttons. That's about IT, for me...

What's yours?
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#296345 - 10/13/10 09:53 AM Re: Touch Screens
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
jerry you coming to the SMN dinner meeting ?

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#296346 - 10/13/10 09:55 AM Re: Touch Screens
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Buttons and sliders are NOT cheap!


Either is the Tyros 4 or Audya, PA2x.......
whats your point......



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-13-2010).]

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