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#296982 - 10/17/10 08:10 PM
Re: A Tyros4 Demonstration (in German)
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
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Another Tyros4 Demo (UK) Presented by music dealer, Roger Hagerty (Nottingham, UK): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBbEswj3AI I personally wasn't overly impressed with his playing style (rather stiff, and simply playing melody line over auto accomp style) and would have preferred not merely listening to intros playing alone without live playing over them, as it gives me the impression of simply backing track karaoke. That said, I think the demo showcases the 'outstanding sound' advancement of the Tyros4 'voices' and 'Styles', though I think Yamaha 'way overdid' the scat vocal parts in so many styles creating to my ears gimmicky sounding shopping mall schlock. If I ever upgrade to Tyros4, I'll definitely will be needing to mute them, or revoice the scat voices to standard instrument voices. Scott Yee Entertainment
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#296988 - 10/18/10 09:18 AM
Re: A Tyros4 Demonstration (in German)
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4381
Loc: Norway
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Originally posted by Scottyee: The strange thing I noticed right off though, is that most of the audience is gray haired, looks over 60, and 'bored to tears'. Maybe it's a bunch of SZ members. Most of us fit into that category, don't we ??? Btw, been listening to demoes posted in another tread here. To be honest, the T4 internal styles sounds a kind of boring to me, not because they're bad composed, but simply because it's like everything is mixed in a way that it sounds liveless in my ears. They don't allow a single peak to rise, and that way they kill the "live feeling". Drums should have more "punch" as well. But as always, that's my very personal opinion. Another strange thing I notice regarding pricelevel here in Norway, is that T4 is in fact cheeper than T3 in some stores. Amazing, never seen a new model sell for less money than the "old" one. Cheers and happy Playing GJ
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#296990 - 10/18/10 12:13 PM
Re: A Tyros4 Demonstration (in German)
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
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Seems Yamaha don't want the drums to be barely heard at all... But listen to how poorly most arranger players voice their leads, totally overpowering the backing, and you realize they are aiming for the meat of their market! I guess most recorded music post 60's must annoy you as much, Donny, as much in the fore as drums got mixed from then on on... I look forward to hearing someone with good ears and a T4 posting something here. I am sure that at least 50% of the criticism of Yamaha's drums comes simply from how far back they are mixed on ROM styles and Registrations, and at least SOME of the other 50% can be fixed by changing the styles to use the new drum kits. And, after all, were Yamaha to think that their drums WERE absolutely perfect the way they were, why even BOTHER to bring in some new ones for the T4? Hopefully, the T5 can continue this trend, and bring out some good stick kits that up the bar, too. And maybe a few arranger players can listen to themselves AFTER they have played something, compare it to a CD, and realize just how buried they have made the accompaniment and especially the drums...
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