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#297618 - 10/25/10 04:30 PM Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
I don't get it.

Why have Yamaha not introduced any new playable features that impact styles other than Articulation voices?

Why not any features to impact the styles like and playability:

4-6-8 bar styles?
Make Up tools
Riff Tools
Bass to lowest
Autocrash
Random Style variations

nothing? in over 10 years, no new features other than MegaVoice?
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#297619 - 10/25/10 04:49 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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and don't forget . . .

Chord Sequencer !

That's a feature I really appreciated on my Roland RA-800 (module version of GA-800). I really miss not having this on the Yamaha PSR & Tyros keyboards. - Scott
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#297620 - 10/25/10 05:00 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Scott,
Please explain the chord sequencer. I know you and Diki talk about it sometimes..it must be very helpful.

Thanks,
Lee S.
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#297621 - 10/25/10 05:31 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
I don't get it.

Why have Yamaha not introduced any new playable features that impact styles other than Articulation voices?

Why not any features to impact the styles like and playability:

4-6-8 bar styles?
Make Up tools
Riff Tools
Bass to lowest
Autocrash
Random Style variations

nothing? in over 10 years, no new features other than MegaVoice?


What is Autocrash?
what is 4-6-8 bar styles? You mean tha TOTL and MOTL Yamaha have 2 bars style length only?

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#297622 - 10/25/10 05:37 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
Scottyee Offline
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Originally posted by leeboy:
Scott,
Please explain the chord sequencer.


Here you go dude : [Chord Sequencer Explanation

Scott

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#297623 - 10/25/10 05:57 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Ocala, FL USA
I think I see what it is...It is like having a third hand...one that handles the chord progression while you play the fills, breaks etc and can add bass, percussion or arps etc. While the style is played by the chord seq. functions
??

Do I get it?

Lee S.
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#297624 - 10/25/10 06:19 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
Quote:
Originally posted by trident:
What is Autocrash?
what is 4-6-8 bar styles? You mean tha TOTL and MOTL Yamaha have 2 bars style length only?


Autocrash will automatically crash the cymbals coming into or out of a fill or a break depending on how the style is constructed.

The Tyros 4 only has 4 bar styles. The Audya has 6+ bar styles with variations.
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#297625 - 10/25/10 06:27 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
The Tyros 4 only has 4 bar styles. The Audya has 6+ bar styles with variations.


Depending on the style, the number of bars can vary.

The average Tyros/PSR style length is 4 bars/variation, but some have 2 bars, 8 bars, and one has 32.

Ian
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#297626 - 10/25/10 06:47 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
some have 2 bars, 8 bars, and one has 32






[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 10-25-2010).]
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#297627 - 10/25/10 07:10 PM Re: Why in 4 Generations has Tyros not introduced new play features?
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Hi Scott! hope you have been well mate, been a long time since chatting to you on skype!

I read the thread from 2006 where you explained about the chord sequencer. It does sound very useful but I have found a work around for this on my PSR S910 (quite sure all PSR's and Tyroses from 2000 onwards can do this).

Basically in the style sequencer you can record each style part yourself and select them NOT to respond to any chord changes you make on the keyboard while playing live.

I have recorded a very unique bass line progression using 4 chords, same with strings, epiano arppegio and strumming nylon guitar.

I can also select certain other parts in the style to be variable so they WILL change chords if I want them too...

When I then play over this style it sounds great, I have a custom bass pattern playing in the background which would never sound the way it does when just looping in normal live chord recognition mode and I can still use my left hand to change chords of other style parts in the same style all in realtime.

The other answer is purchase a Motif XS or XF

Just food for thought...

Nick
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