Any one using Tyros 2 with midi accordion?
If so, I wonder how hard it is to switch to manual rythm from auto rythm. I like to play manual rythm a lot of the time. I'm considering Tyros 2. Currently I'm using a Ketron XD-9 and I find switching from auto rythm to manual rythm to be very awkward. To many buttons and menus!

Thanks,
Don

Hi Don.

Almost didn't see you down here in the Yamaha Arranger Forum. Most arranger enthusiasts are posting in Synth Zone's
General Arranger Keyboard Forum. Try your question there.

I played accordion in a dance band for a lot of years but now, I play a Yamaha PSR3000, mostly for personal enjoyment.

I'm not sure what you mean by auto and manual rhythm. Do you mean turning the auto-accompaniment off while the drums and related percussion sounds are still playing?

If so, the PSR3000 has a button (on the instrument's surface, not in a menu on the screen) to turn the auto-accompaniment on and off. I would think that the Tyros has the same, or similar.

Anyway, welcome!
Its good to hear from another accordion/arranger player. There are others out here too. I'm still a member of the Chicago Accordion Club, enjoy the accordion, and get out to hear the local accordion guys doing their thing whenever I can.

If midi accordions were not so darn expensive, I probably would have went that route, over the keyboard because i'm more at home (or was anyway) on the accordion.

Definitely post your question to the "General" Arranger board here at SynthZone.

Anything you're doing musically/electronically with the accordion involved, will always be of interest to me, so post away here at the zone.

Ed

Hi Don and Ed , great to read your topic .
I have two midi accordions .
The Elkavox 83 and the Concerto DA200 so I'm spoilt for choice .
I've had the Elka for about 20 years it's a great work horse and use it with the Technics smac1200 expander .
I'm currently using the Technics KN7000 with the Concerto .and getting great sounds etc so you should really be getting some fabulous sounds with the tyros 2 it's awesome !!
I do mostly strict tempo ballroom gigs and general entertaining so i tend to use the automatics on the bass .
It's great to make contact with other squeeze box players .

Regards..........Giovanni (Norwich norfolk England )

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your response.

Ed, I posted here because I am considering the purchase of a Tyros 2 and thought might run across an accordion player with one. But what you said is helpful, if there is an actual switch to turn on and off the arranger that would be nice. I started with a GEM WK 2 module, and I could do that very thing. When the arrange was off I could manually play bass and chords and I would have which ever voices were in the particular style I had selected.

Can't seem to do that with the Ketron XD-9.

Giovanni, yes I too love the old standards, and ballroom type music. I also love and use auto rythms. I just like to sometimes play manual rythm to keep in practice. You do have a very fine line-up of midi accordions, saw the Concierto up close and personal last week. Its quite an instrument. I'm not so familliar with the Elkavox, I did own a Cordovox and just recently gave it away. It was about 30 years old!

Well nice to chat, glad to meet all accodion enthustiasts.

Thanks again,
Don

Hi Don , The Elka 83 was under the Irio (I think that is how it's spelt )brand in the USA.
Well you used to own a Cordovox !! I could only dream about that great Electronic accordion ,in the UK it cost a fortune and i could never afford one in those days ,and when i could it was no longer made and the technology had moved on also .
My good friend the legendary Valentino (known as mr Cordovox )in the uk had a quadrophonic cordovox in the early 70's I played it many time it was truely awesome with also the cordovox leslie speaker .his cordovox was virtually custom built and cost about £10,000 in the seventies .He actually toured with the Beatles , and worked with nearly every leading star in the Uk
even now i think the sound is unique .
I went to Vegas to buy my concerto and i'm pleased with it .
do you attend the Las Vegas accordion Convention ?

this year will be my 5th year of attendance

regards ...........Giovanni

regards ........Giovanni

Giovanni,
I had an Iorio-H model, which I'm pretty sure is the Elka 83. It had lots of white buttons with blinking red lights and could layer 4 instruments on the right hand.

I loved everything about that model, except that the organ sounds tended to be too smooth. I was using a large Leslie 760 and if I needed the full hard Santana style organ, it came out sounding like the organ at the old roller-skating rink on Sunday/family day. The organ sounds worked well for everything else, especially dinner music standards, light latin and things like that.

I used that 760 with a Cordovox CG7 and the rock organ sounds had a nice bite.

I heard the Concerto DA200 at the accordion club. It sounded great. I'd be happy to own that.

Don:
I notice that a lot of the midi-accordion players are still using the Ketron XD-3, even though they have looked at others, like the Midi-J. Members here who have the Midi-J (non-accordion players) seem very happy with the midi-J. Do you want to start using a keyboard, like the Tyros2, or have you considered other sound modules?

What kind of amplification are you guys using for the acoustic and the electronic sides of the accordion?

Hi Guys,

Giovanni,
My wife and I attended the Internation Accordion Convention in Vegas around 2000 or 2001, havn't been back since. Didn't care for the Plaza Hotel or the downtown area. Perhaps moving to the Gold Coast Hotel will help.

I saw the Concierto demoed at the National Accordion Association, formerly Texas Acc ASS. in Dallas on March 9-11 2006. Gordon Kohl was there with his, and there were a couple of others.

Ed,

I guess I'll always be looking for the ultimate sound module. I agree many accordionist and accordon sellers use and recommend the XD-3. I bought the XD-9 which is the keyboard version of the XD-3 on ebay, really got a good deal.

Its my understanding, although I havn't seen one, that the Midijay is more for midi file playback and sequencing. I do know however that it has some styles and many sounds.

The Tyros 2 strikes my fancy because I can at least understand the manual. Also I believe that tech support may be more available with the Tyros 2.

I considered the GEM Genesys XP, but Like Ketron, the manual becomes almost usless. I don't see how so much info can be missed in the translation. It was listed as having 256 STYLES, as does the Genesys, but it turns out that there are only 128. Who knows?

Finally, I would like to know more about the new LIMEX SYSTEM. I've heard that they now have auto rythms that can be played from smart cards. But there again I can't find one to listen to.

Didn't mean to write a book!

Regards
Don

Almost forgot,

Amplification, I use Yamaha powered speakers when at home, the music room is mid-sized and they work fine for midi, I do not use any amplification for accustic at home.

If I play a gig, I have two peavy keyboard amps, I use one for accustic, and one for midi. This would not do for a very large venue, but I mostly play restaurants and small lounges, etc.

Hi Folks , the Gem Xp has 256 styles of which 128 are user styles that can be edited and personalized so to speak and then saved .

I've tried the midjay for 2 weeks on loan from my local music store ,it's only my opinion for what it is worth , a great midifile player , styles and sounds nothing special to get excited about , small compact size , I did not think it was very user friendly (bearing in mind I've always been a "TECHNICS" boy so to speak the operating system left a lot to be desired ,

I hope this does not offend anyone as this is not my intention .

The Las Vegas Accordion Convention has moved to the Gold coast Casino it's a much better hotel and there is a free bus service which drops you off at the Barbary casino right on the strip and returns you back to the gold coast on a regular basis .
much better than getting the 201 bus to down town Las Vegas .

Some of the Artiste this year are :-
Dick Contino , At Vann Damme , Peter Soave , Gordon Kohl , gina Branelli , mario and mary Tacca ,K trio plus a host of others , workshops throughout the day .

regards ...........Giovanni