Give me a call

Frank do you have any ETA on the PA3x?

Make sure you put me on your "must call" list when the first PA3x shows up! I have no money, but I still want to see it! lol
UD

Just talked to my Rep and he said we should see them around April, hopefully sooner but I think they are trying to sync up the release with the Musikee show

Uncle Dave, I already have your name down for 2

Great! I can borrow one of Dave's!
DonM

Hey ..... wait yer turn, Cowboy!

Should we assume you saw and heard the PA3X .. And should we assume there will be PA3XPRO ?

If you mean me Dan, yes I heard it, played it, explored it, and had input on it. So far it looks great, sounds great, but I guess I have to get my hands on it during a gig to really comment on how I like it and how it stacks up against the other top arrangers.

I sound like a politician

Thats what everyone is waiting for Frank.........more demos are needed Big Time as many people are just up in the air at this point....KORG should have presented it much better at NAMM ....too many peopel are still sceptical.......only tme will tell....awaiting your Demos as usual.. Thanks.

Dan, I'm interested in what you thought about the Roland module.
DonM

Frank,
Korg mentions that the 76 key model PA3x has semi weighted keys .... did you get a chance to play a 61 key model? Are they sinmilar to the PA800 - better, worse? New design? Key feel is paramount to me.

Dave cant be any worse then the Pa800 sponginess is now.....and you've endured that

are true the rumours that other models other than the PA3x are coming out ?

I was not at NAMM.

I guess that's why Frank didn't answer my query about the module??
I asked Dan instead of Frank. Sorry, I'm old.
DonM

HAHAHAHAHA - Donny, I just saw this old post! You play a psr and you think the PA800 is spongy? I repeat HAHAHAHAHA .....
I know we all are sick of the "key feel" debates, (it's like Goldilocks and the three keyboards!) but hey - Yamaha defines sponginess. The 800 actually feels terrific compared to every Yammy I ever played, and that includes the T1. ( never wanted to play any of the followups ).

See you soon!!

Frankly ( no pun intended) I'm happy with T4, but it's been a while since we've taken a field trip to your store, we haven't seen the new store and I want to at least demo the Pa3x.

To me Dave ..... spongy Psr = Fast Action

Fast, yes .... but spongy personified! LOL
(That's a topic for an extended breakfast meeting!)

[quote=DnjTo me Dave ..... spongy Psr = Fast Action [/quote]

Donny, I must agree that it's a fast action and I like it better (personal opinion) than the cheaper feeling Fatar used in some of the Korgs.

However, I can't agree that it is in any way "spongy"...it does not feel that way at all...it does have less resistance, and a more shallow key throw, but there's certainly no "sponginess" that I can feel, and I've played them a lot more than most here.

The S910's velocity sensitivity is second to none (again-my opinion)...you can press a key slow enough that there is no sound, much like a piano, and it's a good indication of how well velocity sensitivity is implemented on a keyboard.

Also another reason the S910 action feels "different", is that it does not have aftertouch...now, aftertouch can make a keyboard feel spongy, but only if it is poorly done...thankfully Tyros3/4's FSX action does it perfectly...most Fatar have an uneven rubbery feel because of the way aftertouch is implemented.

If it was me, I'd simply rejoice in the fact that it isn't a Fatar...the fact that it is "fast" is just another nice perk.

Ian

There certainly is nothing wrong with Fatar keybeds. I'm sure just like any mfg. they make lower end ones...Kurzweil has used the Fatar for many years with outstanding results.

They build many different models, both synth action and Hammer action.
Certainly some PSR's I have tried through the years had what I would call spongy keybeds....along wth other mfg too.

I do like the T4 better than PSR910

I'm sure some of Fatar's keybeds are terrific...the ones I played were not...they were cheap feeling, but acceptable.

Actually, I've never played a keyboard that was "spongy"...try pressing your finger on a sponge...none I ever played felt like that!

Perhaps there is a brand of sponge we can use as a standard?

The cheaper Fatar, especially up to a few years ago, were horrendous; they not only felt cheap, but they were much less than durable...I'm sure they've gotten better...in fact, I hope they have gotten better.

Ian

I'm just biding my time...no rush at all to get a new arranger at this time...I like what I see in the new KORG PA3x 61 as far as "features" for my needs which in the long run I would have to weigh against my needs for a Yamaha again. In any event I would have to actually play one when it it is released to determine if it for me. Features vs Sound at this point......and then there is the New Roland module as a wild card entry

Ian,
That's interesting...Kurzweil has used those Fatars for many years and the Kurz is definelty a PRO synth and gets HEAVY use by it's users...
Haven't heard many complaints.

What keyboards that use Fatar are you refering to?

Lee they were the early Kurzweil synths...the K1000 and K2000...I have several friends using them that have had many issues with the keys and key contacts.

Of course, it's my opinion, but the keyboard on those synths certainly didn't suit the quality of sound they made.,..they were beautifully sounding instruments with second rate keyboard actions.

Yes, Fatar has improved over the years...as far as I know, the I-series Korgs used Yamaha actions. The newer ones are probably Fatar.

Ian