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#318002 - 03/01/11 04:50 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Scottyee]
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Fran,
Korg caused this problem!
The PA3X is NOT finished...They should have just said that at NAMM when they did those demo's if you call them that.....

They just announced it at NAAM to get it out here.

They should have just kept it under their petticoat until it was ready....you don't announce a musical instrument you can not fully demo.

I would not be too surprised if right now someone at Korg (marketing) is looking for a new job.
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#318003 - 03/01/11 04:56 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: leeboy]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
Posts: 1415
Loc: Netherlands
Yes I know Lee that Korg USA caused all this. I told here before that the PA3x wasn't finished yet and that we should wait till April for the official release and demo's.

At that moment we can judge about the quality of the PA3X and then I decide if I want one or not.

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#318004 - 03/01/11 05:03 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Scottyee]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Another way of looking at it is that many Korg fans (like ME) will most likely never buy a Tyros and the sneak peek at a new model has piqued our interest already. Trade shows were never intended for the public, so I doubt that the manufacturers even care what idle gossip is going on in chat rooms or on You Tube. When the units ship and the marketing kicks in, I'm sure hungry Korg buyers will come out in droves to see, feel, hear and (probably) BUY the new PA3x. Korg has a very successful relationship with pros on stage, and you can bet that they are counting on that kind of support for the sale of these new boards. I doubt that Yamaha really affects Korg sales that much. They are so different in many ways, and I think there's room at the top for Korg and Yamaha, just as there is room for Ford and Chevy...chocolate and vanilla...peas and carrots...(you get the idea!)

I will play the PA3x with open ears and closed eyes and decide where to go from there. To even join in the speculation this early is counterproductive, and I won't engage.

To Yamaha's credit - if classical and theatrical arrangements are your bag, then you should be very excited because so far, the demos sound fantastic. For me - that style of play is rarely in my shows, so I won't miss a thing. I'm a "play the hits" kind of guy and I like the added punch and bite that I get from Korg rhythm sections. Actually, for me - the best arranger would be somewhere right between the Yamaha and the Korg. None of the others do it for me. Just thinkin' out loud.
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#318022 - 03/01/11 07:18 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Another way of looking at it is that many Korg fans (like ME) will most likely never buy a Tyros and the sneak peek at a new model has piqued our interest already. Trade shows were never intended for the public, so I doubt that the manufacturers even care what idle gossip is going on in chat rooms or on You Tube. When the units ship and the marketing kicks in, I'm sure hungry Korg buyers will come out in droves to see, feel, hear and (probably) BUY the new PA3x. Korg has a very successful relationship with pros on stage, and you can bet that they are counting on that kind of support for the sale of these new boards. I doubt that Yamaha really affects Korg sales that much. They are so different in many ways, and I think there's room at the top for Korg and Yamaha, just as there is room for Ford and Chevy...chocolate and vanilla...peas and carrots...(you get the idea!)

I will play the PA3x with open ears and closed eyes and decide where to go from there. To even join in the speculation this early is counterproductive, and I won't engage.

To Yamaha's credit - if classical and theatrical arrangements are your bag, then you should be very excited because so far, the demos sound fantastic. For me - that style of play is rarely in my shows, so I won't miss a thing. I'm a "play the hits" kind of guy and I like the added punch and bite that I get from Korg rhythm sections. Actually, for me - the best arranger would be somewhere right between the Yamaha and the Korg. None of the others do it for me. Just thinkin' out loud.
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are you ordering the speaker system also ...?...61.or 76 model?

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#318031 - 03/01/11 08:59 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Scottyee]
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Uncle Dave,
Well said.

The problem is I do like aspects of both...so it's gonna be a give/take as always.

I'm not in any hurry.
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#318139 - 03/02/11 06:38 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Scottyee]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Look, we can see that even dictators in the Middle East have a problem controlling what gets videoed and what doesn't, these days... Why should some underpaid Korg part-time sales rep (who probably works for another dozen companies, too) be able to control what a brutal dictator can't...? smile

BTW, it's a long established sales procedure to show a product at a VERY early stage, even if overwhelmingly, to hold sales up of a competitor's products if they get to market before you. Many other companies have done, even to the point of vapor-ware...! At least we KNOW that the PA3X will ship, pretty soon.

What has become disappointing, on this forum, are people who SHOULD know better, expressing disappointment at poor, amateur presentations and videos that fail to match even the PREVIOUS Korg arranger, and assumptions that this IS what it is going to sound like... There's no way in hell that, when the PA3X is released (rather than beta demoed for dealers and the like) it is going to sound WORSE than the PA2X...

So, go listen to a PA2X, and then imagine it with a doubled sound ROM. And give your fevered imaginations a rest!
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#318143 - 03/02/11 06:49 PM Re: Korg Pa3X + Kronos Played in a Music Shop [Re: Diki]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
Posts: 1415
Loc: Netherlands
Oh oh watch out what you say Diki. Before you know you get attacked by the anti PA3X gang smile

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