I made a "Free-style" (Called aptly enough, Freestyle4...it was my 4th version)) on my PSR several months before Yamaha had it on the Tyros3, and it worked just fine...in fact it's still being passed around, as it will work on other Yamaha arranger instruments as well as the Tyros.

I used Style Assembly, and re-voiced string lines and pads/phrases to get what I wanted...it wasn't difficult, but it was time consuming finding the right parts, the best voice to use, and the proper place to use the parts.

I'm glad you mentioned about the BK-7m not having an on-board Style Creator, but that also makes me a bit disappointed.

Does that mean it does not even have Style Assembly? I'm reading from the other posts that it can at least re-voice a style, but, unless you already have a Roland E or G, Style Asssembly would very important, at least to most people. It's the easiest way to make your own styles.

A glaring omission, in my opinion, and another deal breaker as well.

Ian

Thank you for your detailed answer, Don.

Ok, here are 11 examples of styles from the BK-7m. All are as
loaded on the unit at the factory with no tweaking. Also, these are all one take recordings - goofs and all.

Here is the link: http://www.box.net/shared/tgdvee8ept

Hammer

Deane,

Does it sound better than your T4? To me it doesn't. However it's difficult to determine the sound quality without being there and playing it myself.

Gary

Hi Gary,
No, it does not sound as nice as my Tyros 4. But, it sure is fun to play and the styles have a really nice feeling to them that the
Tyros 4 styles lack. But, for pure sound the T4 is miles ahead.

One thing I noticed is the pre-set styles have very poor OTS settings in most cases. There is a file on the unit that Roland prepared with several hundred songs in it. These are very well done for the most part which begs the question why are the pre-set styles not setup the same way?

I am finding lots of useful styles in the "prepared" file that I can use for gigs. My next experiment will be putting the two keyboards together and using the A-800 controller to drive the Roland and using the T4 in full keyboard mode for voices only.
Later this week I'll record some of those efforts.


I don't know why the manufactures think it is a kick to sit for hours and tweak sounds and styles. For my money I want them to be in place out of the box - wishful thinking.

Hammer

How would they determine what sounds and styles would be perfect for everyone......out of the box??? TO DREAM.........THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM........



chas

Interesting to see that Deane likes the Music Finder setups, and I prefer most of the OTS setups. Different strokes!
DonM

On the G70 and E80, I think Roland reworked the OTS styles with version2...and I think the original Music assistant remained the same...It doesn't matter to me, I use neither,,,I want to set up my own band members and save as a single User program...and make my changes on the fly..

Thank you Hammer for sharing your work with the Roland module.
I understand how one can tire of the Yamaha styles (I use a Tyros 2)

Keep us posted on your thoughts on the roland.

I too enjoyed your demo, Hammer.
Thank you for your efforts and explanation.
Bernie