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#323547 - 05/06/11 07:23 AM ROLAND make comeback
rolandfan Offline
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Do u think roland can make a top of the
Range arranger comeback...or has too much
Time passed and roland themselves know its
Too late...

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#323551 - 05/06/11 09:10 AM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: rolandfan]
Dnj Offline
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It would make sense that Roland release a BK7m arranger keyboard in the future to compliment the module. Time will tell.

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#323555 - 05/06/11 11:53 AM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: rolandfan]
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I wouldn't underestimate them.... but who knows what Roland development plans are?
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#323559 - 05/06/11 12:14 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: Dnj]
Scottyee Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
It would make sense that Roland release a BK7m arranger keyboard in the future to compliment the module.
Don't forget to remind Roland to bring back rocker their 'chord sequencer'.

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#323560 - 05/06/11 12:33 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Originally Posted By: Dnj
It would make sense that Roland release a BK7m arranger keyboard in the future to compliment the module.
Don't forget to remind Roland to bring back rocker their 'chord sequencer'.


I personally have NO use for a CS....but if it isn't on the BK7m already it's in all practicality NOT going to be on a future BK7m version arranger IMO. Roland discontinued the CS once already for a reason.

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#323562 - 05/06/11 01:05 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: rolandfan]
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Quote:
Don't forget to remind Roland to bring back their 'chord sequencer'.


HiGuys,

I sent through a list of 15 improvements I'd like to see carried out on the BK-7m today, directly to Roland. I included a number of the suggestions I have seen here and on other fora (is that the correct plural of forum?) including the return of the Chord Sequencer. personally I don't need it, but I hope it makes a re-appearance if it helps you out! Here is a quote from the reply I got.

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John


Great stuff - much appreciate the time you have put into this and your enthusiasm for the product! Feedback like this is essential gor future R&D.


The rest is a bit personal so I won't bore you with it, but it just goes to show, Roland are always listening! May I suggest again that you each contact Roland with your own suggestions. the more they hear from customers or potential customers, the more they are likely to create a certain feature.

John
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#323585 - 05/06/11 04:10 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: rolandfan]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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I would most certainly like to have the Chord Sequencer!
I would even consider getting the new Korg, if it ever becomes available, because of that feature. Of course the rest of it would have to be good too.
DonM
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#323598 - 05/06/11 09:53 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: Sweentech1]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally Posted By: Sweentech1
Quote:
Don't forget to remind Roland to bring back their 'chord sequencer'.


HiGuys,

I sent through a list of 15 improvements I'd like to see carried out on the BK-7m today, directly to Roland. I included a number of the suggestions I have seen here and on other fora (is that the correct plural of forum?) including the return of the Chord Sequencer. personally I don't need it, but I hope it makes a re-appearance if it helps you out! Here is a quote from the reply I got.

Quote:
John


Great stuff - much appreciate the time you have put into this and your enthusiasm for the product! Feedback like this is essential gor future R&D.


The rest is a bit personal so I won't bore you with it, but it just goes to show, Roland are always listening! May I suggest again that you each contact Roland with your own suggestions. the more they hear from customers or potential customers, the more they are likely to create a certain feature.

John


If Roland has a BK7mish arranger KB lurking in the wings it is already designed and ready to go...beta...they are years in advance with R&D....any wish list items IMO would be in future units if at all. They dissolved the CS for a good reason presumably on older models after arrangers like the G1000 I never used it at all on mine...some features are just useless for some and important for others, the MFD on all my Yamaha arrangers is useless to me also, but others love it go figure? it's all about money & if it's worth it to design into a unit......I hope you guys get your wish.


Edited by Dnj (05/06/11 09:57 PM)

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#323599 - 05/06/11 10:35 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: rolandfan]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Hi John (Sweentech1),

In addition to bringing back the chord sequencer, another hugely important feature (at least for me) is for Roland to finally implement II- V7 I rootless jazz chord (ala Bill Evans style) auto accomp chord recognition, of which has been included on Techincs and Yamaha arrangers as long as I can remember, and added to Ketron arrangers since the SD1, and to Korg arrangers since the PA2X. Currently Roland remains the only leading manufacterer of arrangers keyboards that still has't implemented this feature yet, so all the more important for tnem to finally catch up with the rest, and get on board.

LH rootless chord voicing recognition desired (in all 12 keys of course)

Key of C:

IIm9 - Dm9: F1 -C2 - E2
V13 - G13: F1 - B1- E2
I 6/9 - C6/9: E1- A1 - D2

Two hand jazz chord recognition:
F13 - (LH: Eb1 - A1 - D2) + (RH: G2 - C3- F3)

Here's a song with me playing in auto accomp mode utilizing the above rootless jazz style chords. Listen to my left live piano playing utilizing these chords and how it triggers the auto accomp drums and and correct bass lines of which supply the root of the chords, and authentic to the way the keyvoard player is expected to play (without including the chord's root notes) in trad combo jazz, playing chord extensions (9ths and 13ths) and allowing the bass player to supply the chord root tones instead. Pretty cool giving this jazz style its signature sound.

I Get Along Without You Very Well

If you want more details, feel free to PM me and/or meet me on Skype to voice/video chat. cool

My Skype id is: scottyee


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#323601 - 05/06/11 11:34 PM Re: ROLAND make comeback [Re: Scottyee]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
For anyone interested in learning more about rootless jazz chords played on the piano, watch the following. Note, the rootless voicing recognized on the arranger (above) are slight modifications of how they are played Bill Evans style on piano:




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