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#325090 - 05/27/11 02:29 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: ianmcnll]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
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I have reach the conclusion that the KEY is no the tool (arranger), but the player. A good arranger player can make miracles in any decent keyboard. A skill-less player can take a TOL arranger, like the T4, and produce a very poor performance.


That is a very common conclusion.

The same could be said about guitars, trumpets, saxophones, drums, and the humble kazoo. wink

However, it appears, at least from the on-line demos, the performances uploaded here on SZ, and the factory presentations, that the Tyros4 is capable of a more expansive range of musical genres than, let's say, the Roland G-70, the Ketron Audya or the Korg PA-2X.

If you, or someone else, can provide examples of the Audya, G-70, and PA-2X doing the same broad range of musical genres with the same impressive ease, it would go a very long way in showing that these instruments are at least the equal to Tyros4 in covering an incredibly wide variety of musical genres.

Surely, if these other arrangers are equally capable, there must be plenty of examples to illustrate this quality, although, I must admit, I have seen very little so far?

Ian


Agreed Ian.....you definitely need an arrager KB that is Capable to perform in the manner and style of Tyros 4 in the first place.... playing ability comes in second.

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#325092 - 05/27/11 02:47 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj


Agreed Ian.....you definitely need an arrager KB that is Capable to perform in the manner and style of Tyros 4 in the first place.... playing ability comes in second.


Donny, I also believe playing ability can make a big difference, especially if the performer can play many genres of music with basically equal skill.

Some players are more at home in certain genres, but, the arranger itself should be capable of covering most, if not all, types of music, equally well.
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#325099 - 05/27/11 03:15 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Scottyee]
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Scott the link works..it is the transfer page and only accessible by the given link..and it is arranger mode samples..
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#325102 - 05/27/11 03:39 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Scott the link works..it is the transfer page and only accessible by the given link..and it is arranger mode samples..


I did get on that page, Fran...it sounded like a bunch of style demos, using the intros...mind you, they were quite good.

I'd be very interested in hearing examples of the G-70 or E-80, for that matter, doing some widely different genres with a full musical example (like a whole tune)...maybe a film score (even a simple one), or some other type of arrangement?

The only ones I could find of you playing the G-70 in arranger mode, and/or using commercial SMF, were ones you did with vocals.

For example, the tunes you did here on your website: http://francarango.homestead.com/discography.html

Have you played/recorded instrumentals that illustrate the scope and capabilities of your G-70?

Ian
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#325112 - 05/27/11 04:23 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: ianmcnll]
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when I went on that site link http://francarango.homestead.com/discography.html

EVERY song started playing at the same time !!! confused2 surprised

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#325119 - 05/27/11 04:51 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
EVERY song started playing at the same time !!! confused2 surprised

Dnj, I didn't experience that problem at all: smile

http://francarango.homestead.com/discography.html

I assume these all are Fran "singing along" to commercially produced backing tracks and did not include any live arranger keyboard playing, right?

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#325121 - 05/27/11 04:53 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Originally Posted By: Dnj
EVERY song started playing at the same time !!! confused2 surprised

Dnj, I didn't experience that problem at all. smile
I assume these all were Fran singing along to commercially produced backing tracks and did not include any live arranger keyboard playing?


Who knows Scot?.. no explanation was given....I'll try it again. But I think these are old also heard them before....


Edited by Dnj (05/27/11 04:54 PM)

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#325182 - 05/28/11 02:14 PM Re: Tyros 4: Versatility is the Key ! [Re: Dnj]
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Yamaha Tyros 4 Demo with Craig Knudsen

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