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#328330 - 07/08/11 05:21 PM music by montunoman: sabor a mi
montunoman Offline
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Hello SZ friends,

My wife and I recorded this Spanish language bolero a few months ago. This is one of our "singnature" songs - one that we play on just about every gig. The Latin crowd knows and loves it.

This was done on my Tyors 2. My buddy Jason Davis played a nice solo (even though he never of heard the tune)

Perhaps the percussion and bass are a bit hot: I was going for the live band sound -sometimes I was I had an Audya:)

I hope you enjoy this.

greetings from Mexico,

Paul

http://www.box.net/shared/05ae9mvjulo56atqnvio
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#328332 - 07/08/11 06:13 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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Paul,

Absolutely wonderful!!!!! I loved it. I can't believe that is the T2. It sounded great.

The Sax solo was awesome so was the piano work.

Nice vocals too! Is your wife playing on this track?

Regards,
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#328336 - 07/08/11 07:25 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: kbrkr]
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Nice one Paul...and the vocals are sung by his wife. They make a great team.

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hace buena música

Thanks for sharing this super recording.
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#328356 - 07/09/11 05:11 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Hi Paul

That was some very nice music. Nice keys, vocal and sax. clap

Take a listen to Europa on this link. I'm using the same Bolero Lento style on a Tyros 2 played live. The mic was left on and you can hear a little talking. I recorded it and all songs on this page including vocal direct onto the T2 hard drive. I always set the level at 40 in case we get loud. I did no sound editing. The mic is a 30 year old Shure that probably needs a new diaphragm. Compare the sound and tone quality and see what you think in comparison headphone

http://scottlmusic.com/Chuck_Wheeler.html


Edited by Scott Langholff (07/09/11 05:13 AM)

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#328361 - 07/09/11 07:03 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
leeboy Offline
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Paul,
Really enjoyed it...wish I knew Spanish!
So all the sound is from T2?
You have tweaked it a lot...Yes?
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#328365 - 07/09/11 07:25 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
montunoman Offline
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Thank you Al, Larry, and Scott for listening.

Al, yes it was a T2. Also I used a GEM digital piano on the overdub. My wife is just singing, but she does have a solid piano background and a good ear. In fact sometimes she teaches parts from some of the cover songs we do.

Scott, I liked your recordings very much. Both the vocals and keyboard playing sounded fantastic. Thanks for sharing!
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#328369 - 07/09/11 09:06 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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Scott - Great job on the Tyros, both right and left hand.

Paul - I listened to your arrangement several times. It was really good, but I have a few suggestions. Your wife's voice is superb, and the volume should be brought up a bit on her mic to bring it more up front. Additionally, a slight touch of reverb and a tiny bit of echo/delay would add a lot of depth to her vocals. She is an excellent singer.

The sax solo should have also been a bit more up front, which would have placed more emphasis on the solo during that segment of the performance.

Overall, the entire arrangement was very, very good and I enjoyed it immensely.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#328371 - 07/09/11 09:16 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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I want Gary doing ALL my critiques!
What a genuine, tactful gentleman!
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#328373 - 07/09/11 09:20 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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Hi Paul. I especially enjoyed your song because it captured the feeling of a "live" club performance.
Your wife delivered a lot of vocal passion and feeling. cool
What does the songs title: "Sabor a Mi" mean in english?
Also do you have an english translation of the lyrics?

Did you overdub the GEM digital piano parts after or before your wife laid down her vocal track?
I assume Jason Davis was playing a "real" live acoustic saxophone, right? wink
Which Tyros 2 instrument parts were auto-accompaniment tracks and which were played live by you on Tyros 2?
Realizing you are an accomplished professuonal percusiionist, did you perform these on an acoustic percussion set or on Your Tyros?
Please share how you multracked this song.
Your sound production quality is continuing to improve with each subsequent posting here. clap
Paul, Thanks again for sharing.

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#328381 - 07/09/11 09:57 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
montunoman Offline
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Gary, thank you for taking the time to listen to my recording several times. I appreciate your thoughtful critic. The mixing process is not something I enoy or am very good at. If we ever get around to do a "re-mix", I'll keep your suggestions in mind.


Scott, first I recorded the basic LH accompaniment track on the Tyros 2. Then Cynthia sang her part. We then tracked in one take the piano and sax (at the same time)

I find live drums and percussion very hard to record/mix with the gear I have so I just used the pre-set "bolero-lento" style on the Tyros 2. I just brought up the percussion/ and bass volume to try to get that Audya/live club band sound. I think I muted the piano and pads parts. Thanks for your coments Scott. I hope we can talk when I get back to the States. I'll be in SO CA in early Aug.


Edited by montunoman (07/09/11 10:05 AM)
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#328383 - 07/09/11 10:12 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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Excellent all around, Paul...instrumental, vocals, and the sax...beautifully done.

I agree with Gary's assessment, although it does sound great as is.

Ian
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#328384 - 07/09/11 10:16 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: Scottyee]
montunoman Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
What does the songs title: "Sabor a Mi" mean in english?
Also do you have an english translation of the lyrics?



It's hard to translate as I have never really heard a similar phrase in English. "sabor a mi" means something like "my taste is is upon you" It is something very romantic in Spanish.

I have never heard it song in English however I think Nat King Cole sung it in Spanish (with a HEAVY American accent) Despite his poor Spanish, Nat King Coles Spanish language album is still very popular here in Mexico.
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#328387 - 07/09/11 10:54 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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BEAUTIFUL clap Another S-Z entry for my iPOD ... Latin/Spanish/ music is SO sensual ... she could be singing about killing a chicken for dinner, and it would turn me on rotf2
Interesting about the translation... on google translate this is the progression I got:
sabor = taste ... sabor a = flavor ... sabor a mi = SABOTAGE ... I guess having "my taste upon you" is like sabotaging yourself smile confused1
Working on a music project with an Italian friend of mine, I ask him to translate the lyrics, and even though he speaks very good English, some phrases just do not translate well ...

montunoman - please keep the songs coming ... I LOVE them ...

thank you, your wife and your friends ...
BTW ... your sax player reminds me of the sax player we had in the band in that it didn't matter if he heard the song before or not, he could just listen to the chord progression and play a beautiful solo ...
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#328390 - 07/09/11 12:08 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: tony mads usa]
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Thank you Tony- It's an honor for us to be on your ipod:)

yes, languages are hard to translate sometimes. Last night I was trying to explain someone everyday American idioms to some of my Mexican friends. It stuff we just totally take for granted.


It's actually nice to play with a sax player that has great improv skills and has never heard these songs. What comes out is so fresh and spontanious.
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#328405 - 07/09/11 04:03 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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GOOD stuff! My "adopted grandson", Andress, who was born in Mexico and now lives here is studying guitar with me. We just played along with this piece(nylon string guitar)!

His mom and dad are friends and I have adopted their three children; especially Andress (he's now 11). He stays with me most week-ends. Mom and dad are careful to preserve their culture. they only speak Spanish at home, and are working with "gramps" to learn Spanish. I'm a major supporter of the Dream act, and have gone to Washington to attend Senate hearings.

I'm trying my best to work on developing an understanding of music from their culture, and this is a big help.


Enjoyed it!

Russ

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#328408 - 07/09/11 04:39 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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I always have thought...I should have married a beautiful, hot spanish lady. And I like the music as well.
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#328410 - 07/09/11 05:14 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
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Another stellar performance from you Paul! Excellent work on all counts! Loved your take! Super sax man too!

Keep up the great playing, singing, and recording!
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#328431 - 07/10/11 03:11 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Hi Paul

Thanx for the kind words. Coming from an excellent player such as yourself I am really flattered smile

Now that I have a little more time, I wanted to say that the musicians and music was very excellent.

But, I thought hearing the sound quality of my Bolero Lento compared with yours might give some ideas. The sound on mine to me is clear and distinct, more so than the sound on yours. I could probably used a little more bass if I was going to make a CD. But, maybe you prefer the sound as it is on yours.

I basically agree with Gary on this. Your wife needs to be louder and more clear, as it is she sounds far away and muffled. But the overall sound to me needs work.

Anyway, only intended as food for thought.

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#328432 - 07/10/11 03:14 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: travlin'easy]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Scott - Great job on the Tyros, both right and left hand.



Gary

You noticed I was using both hands! You made my day rotfl

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#328447 - 07/10/11 08:26 AM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: montunoman]
saxxman Offline
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Scott - Tou and Chuck did a super job on that video too! Good work all around! Enjoy that new Tyros!
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#328469 - 07/10/11 02:03 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: saxxman]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Hi Randy

Thanx for the compliment. The things I've heard you do are outstanding.

Maybe we should start a duo. We could be known as the Panhandle Tyros 4 Guys organ piano

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#328517 - 07/11/11 05:01 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: saxxman]
montunoman Offline
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Thanks Ian, Russ, Randy, and Lee Boy and Scott Langholff for listening and your comments.

Russ, that's a beautiful thing you're doing for your "nieto". It must be awsome to have a "abuelo gringo" like you smile
You may want to listen to "Los Ponchos" or "Los Tres Aces"
These are the classic Mexican trios that played all great Spanish language standards. It would great for you two to play along to.
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#328519 - 07/11/11 05:05 PM Re: music by montunoman: sabor a mi [Re: leeboy]
montunoman Offline
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Originally Posted By: leeboy
I always have thought...I should have married a beautiful, hot spanish lady. And I like the music as well.


Yes it does have it's benefits, but along with the passion and beauty they tend to have strong tempers:)
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