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#337371 - 01/25/12 06:22 AM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: Dnj]
john smies Offline
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.

"....The Korg micro-Arranger along with Pa80/60/50 model keyboards, don't store styles individually, but instead, store them 'grouped together' with other styles in one of 3 sets of USER Banks: USER01, USER02, USER03. Each USER bank can contain 16 styles, with all 3 banks: 48 user styles total . As a result, esp if you've got a lot of user styles/user banks, organizing & compiling your entire style library can quickly becomes challenging to organize and manage, esp if you need to access more than 48 styles at a sitting.....

Scott,
I fail to see why you would organize things this way. With the Korg ( any Korg) you can also vacate any factory style position. There definitely will be many styles or even complete banks within the factory styles that you do not use. So you can effectively extend your User Style Banks to a number much larger than three by (temporarily ) converting fixed factory banks to user banks. In this way you can gear up a set up for the kind of gig you are performing at by simply loading all relevant data in one go. ....................

regards,
John

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#337401 - 01/25/12 12:46 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: john smies]
Scottyee Offline
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Originally Posted By: john smies

With the Korg ( any Korg) you can also vacate any factory style position. There definitely will be many styles or even complete banks within the factory styles that you do not use.

hi John. Good point. I plan to eventually do just that. rocker
Right now though, having only had the KMA for 2-3 weeks,
I've still not had sufficient time to thoroughly explore the factory styles yet.
I'm also still at the stage of auditioning & trying out my collection (100's?) of external styles (both Korg & converted 3rd party ones)
to determine which ones most useful to me personally.
These are all now stored in my SD Card in USER Bank file sets.
Once I figure out which ones are most essential to me, I'll then copy & overwrite those into the available factory style slots.

Question: I realize KMA 'factory styles' can be restored at any time from the backup files on the KMA backup CD.
Is it possible to simply restore a 'single' factory style, or must an 'entire' style bank be restored ?

Thanks.

Scott smile

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#337403 - 01/25/12 12:53 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: Scottyee]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Originally Posted By: john smies

With the Korg ( any Korg) you can also vacate any factory style position. There definitely will be many styles or even complete banks within the factory styles that you do not use.

hi John. A good point.
I plan to eventually do just that.
Right now though, having only had the KMA for 2-3 weeks,
I've still not had sufficient time to thoroughly explore the factory styles yet.
I'm also still at the stage of auditioning & trying out my collection (100's?) of external styles (both Korg & converted 3rd party ones)
to determine which ones will become essential keepers.
These are all now stored in my SD Card in USER Bank file sets. Once I figure out which ones are most essential to me, I'll then copy & overwrite those into the available factory style slots.

Question: I realize KMA 'factory styles' can be restored at any time from the backup files on the KMA backup CD.
Is it possible to simply restore a 'single' factory style, or must an 'entire' style bank be restored ?

Thanks.

Scott smile


Scott keep us posted on your progress.....& also when you get the iRIG microphone VH processor

iRIG

I want to know how it works out for you versus the Nanoverb unit/KMA combination your now using on your GIGS....must be nice not to have to carry around the T4....take care btw nice to talk to you on SKYPE also.. wink


Edited by Dnj (01/25/12 12:54 PM)

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#337404 - 01/25/12 12:54 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: john smies]
Saswick Offline
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Registered: 01/05/01
Posts: 875
Loc: Garstang, Preston, Lancashire,...
Hi Scott

Nice to talk to you and Tony (God bless his little cotton socks) in person. In case you havn't read your IM the files your sent will not load into the Micro. I have checked them using the Style to midi program and they contain three fills. Its my guess they were created on a PA500/800/1x or 2x and are not backward compatable.

I also managed to load individual files from any SET into the micro (KMA) quite easily so if you wish to do this rest assured it can be done.

Regards

Col Saswick (Private Joke) Ha Ha (Private huh quick demotion)

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#337407 - 01/25/12 01:10 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: Saswick]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
hi Donny, yes, I'll definitely fill you in what I learn about the iRig after I get a chance (hopefully) to check it out at MacWorld San Francisco later this week.
The iRig definitely looks promising. smile

Colonel Saswick! grin

Originally Posted By: Saswick
Hi Scott
I have checked them using the Style to midi program and they contain three fills. Its my guess they were created on a PA500/800/1x or 2x and are not backward compatable.

Yep, this is exactly what I had suspected as well.
Though I too was able to load the styles into the USER BANK and with the style name appearing, when I actually tried to play them, I received a FAIL error.
Colin, Thanks for confirming that.

Scott smile


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#337411 - 01/25/12 01:31 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: Scottyee]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.

Hi Scott,

Question: I realize KMA 'factory styles' can be restored at any time from the backup files on the KMA backup CD.
Is it possible to simply restore a 'single' factory style, or must an 'entire' style bank be restored ?

Answer:
Yes it is possible. How ?
If you save your current 17 factory style banks ( switch of "factory style protect ") and save each bank one after the other in a new ALL.set which you can give any name you like, you can afterwards recall this ALL.set, delve into it and reload either a bank ( to whichever bank postion that you like) or reload a SINGLE STYLE, to whichever position that you desire, be it in the factory banks or in the users.

Hope that clarifies your question ?

regards
john

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#337413 - 01/25/12 01:38 PM Re: Organizing & Compiling Pa80/60/50 Styles with PRM [Re: john smies]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Originally Posted By: john smies

If you save your current 17 factory style banks ( switch of "factory style protect ") and save each bank one after the other in a new ALL.set which you can give any name you like, you can afterwards recall this ALL.set, delve into it and reload either a bank ( to whichever bank postion that you like) or reload a SINGLE STYLE, to whichever position that you desire, be it in the factory banks or in the users.

This is just the answer I was hoping for. Thanks John. cool

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