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#338256 - 01/31/12 01:40 AM THE KORG MICRO and its resources
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.


Good Morning to you all,

Nigel,

In my view you are both right and wrong. Right in as much that I could show folks how I used my Micro (= PA50) but I did so abundantly by recording TWO CDs in my livingroom during the years I played it and put some of those up on my youtube pages. Due to health reasons it is amazing in itself I keep appearing here at all ,but I do want to.
In so far you are wrong imho that demos don't say all that much cause they are very personal. Like Ian remarked " a good tweaker is not necessarily a good player, and vice versa " . I am definitely in the first category.

Nevertheless etc.etc.etc. I sent my COMPLETE works to Don ,Scott, Donny and Fran. (Bernie has already got part of it). I spent hours making a decent manual and they have that too. And I included my complete PA collection of styles. They should be busy sorting things out and evaluating for days if not weeks...........

As to a demo, the best I can do ( and that is telling) I will simply send you the two CDs I made with the Micro in my livingroom. I guess meanwhile there are over 100 copies worldwide that were always given away by me , it has nothing to do with money . I will send you an email to explain the contents.

Scott,
You are correct in that you did NOT ask for my software. For the rest of the story I do not see eye to eye with you but heck that is your prerogative. My view is that it is silly to stick to the factory presets, my view is that my programming adds significantly to what is in the box.
And , for the record, I have also included the complete factory presets in one file that I sent to all of you. In other words you can restore it within a minute !!

The Korg story is complex. If you are not used to Korg discipline it takes some doing but it is definitely worth the effort. As to Fran's question about composing a favourite set out of all of my Resources my answer is: yes it can be done . Sometimes it is quite easy sometimes it takes some doing. I will help those along who have or will have the Micro over the next few weeks in as much as I can.

I am now sending my two CDs to all of you and if there is anyone reading this who wants them as well , just mail me: pasounds@zeelandnet.nl

kind regards

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#338262 - 01/31/12 03:44 AM Re: THE KORG MICRO and its resources [Re: john smies]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.

As regards Bernie's question, why can't I have both in my Micro, the factory resources and John's , let me say this.

I am trying not to rush things because adapting to a new OS system takes time and one might easily get discouraged. Of course you can mingle parts of my set up with the factory set up or vice versa,and I will explain in time.
I think two things should get prior attention. One is the organisation of performances, styles and sounds and their loading/saving. To this purpose please read the manual that I sent you. It is important to realize the advantage but also the difference between a SAVE/LOAD ALL file and the saving and loading done via RESTORE/BACKUP data.
Second, to explore my software and do it full justice you simply have to load the entire restore data and listen/play with it according the guidelines of the manual. Once you have familiarized yourselves with these two major aspects you can dive into the intricacies of setting up a mixed bag. You do not have to take my word for it, but believe me it is worth the effort and time.

regards,
John

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#338321 - 01/31/12 05:22 PM Re: THE KORG MICRO and its resources [Re: john smies]
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi
Are the rest of us Missing something???
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best wishes
Rikki 🧸

Korg PA5X 88 note
SX900
Band in a Box 2022

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#338352 - 01/31/12 11:31 PM Re: THE KORG MICRO and its resources [Re: rikkisbears]
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi John,
as you said yourself, most of these new microarranger owners are probably not familiar with korgs operating system.

I don't know how the microarranger functions, I guess it is similar to my pa800, pa3x.

This resources package, when loaded, I gather overwrites the factory sounds , styles etc plus any other settings they may have made themselves??

Just wondering what happens if Korg actually brings out an upgrade for their resources?

Does it mean you're constantly loading one package, then the other, depending on whether you want to use factory or your stuff?

Really got nothing to do with me as I don't own one, but with a bunch of newbies , you really should clearly explain how it works, just in case someone inadvertantly loads your package, and hasn't done a backup of their own system and loses whatever changes they may have made themselves to the keyboard.
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best wishes
Rikki 🧸

Korg PA5X 88 note
SX900
Band in a Box 2022

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#338359 - 02/01/12 01:00 AM Re: THE KORG MICRO and its resources [Re: rikkisbears]
john smies Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.


Hi Rikki,

No problem, I am happy to oblige it might also shed some more light on it to those who that already have or are going to get the Micro.
The loading/saving is slightly different from the PA500/PA800 generation but not all that much.
As regards your question about my package deal, basically it comes down to the fact that you can load either the complete Data ( which often partly overwrites the factory styles in my work) but you can also opt for loading part of an ALL.set which as you know you can open up in seperate folders ( performances, styles, sounds) and as such only load one bank or even one single item.
I have started with the "complete data" with folks such as Bernie and others to show them the full merit of my programming. That is to say if you only load e.g. the style ( tweaked by me) without the corresponding righthand sounds ( tweaked by me) or vice versa you get some result but not the one that I had intended when making it.
However as the Korg OS is rather complex to those not accustomed to it, and the Micro imho is primarily intended for non Korg owners I will continue to contact the folks that get my 2012package and help them along from the very start. (ask Bernie). I have meanwhile sent my files for free and possible evaluation to some others, includint two CDs of mine that were recorded with the PA50 (= micro).
Another point of interest: The Three Deadly sins for Korg Micro.
See new thread

kind regards,
John Smies

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#338371 - 02/01/12 05:29 AM Re: THE KORG MICRO and its resources [Re: john smies]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Using John’s Pa800 package with my Pa 800:

1-I studies loading and saving until I understood.
2-Saved every part that could be saved, stored in on a stick and a copy in my computer
3-Loaded the styles; being aware that I needed some of John’s sounds to get the full value.

My purpose for loading was to get acquainted with John’s work. At a later time I will reload the styles and make a paper record of the ones I want to keep in my user section.

I have the Pa800 over 8 months so I am well acquainted with the styles; I know what’s good and I know what I would like to replace. When I am done working with John’s styles and the factory styles I will have one great keyboard that’s all about desires in styles. I will do the same for the other areas that John has covered.
THIS IS NOT OUT-OF-THE-BOX AND PLAY KEYBOARD.

When I was playing jobs with my Kn7000 I bought a Pa800, I was bored and curious. I used it on my job after taking a short time to program my songs. After playing two jobs I was a mess, my jobs became a nightmare, I was prepared to sell.

I did not sell because I felt the keyboard was offering something very different but I was not sure what it was.
1-My mind set was Technics and Yamaha. After years of using these two keyboards I was very comfortable.

2-I went back to my Kn7000; but I did not stop my trying to understand the Pa800. I did not let up although there were times I thought of selling it again.

3-I am now very comfortable with the Pa7000 and in order to make my korg commitment complete I sold my two Technics keyboards; they were sold about three months ago.
Guys and Ladies I now know I made the right move I am playing better than I have ever played because this keyboard is now me; I am able to do things that I was never able to do. Amen!

John C.

PS, The KMA will be the little sister to my Pa800; portable and light and ready to supply me with some nice experiences. This keyboard, for me, will be; play it right out of the box because of my Pa800 experience.

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