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#338663 - 02/04/12 11:06 AM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: kbrkr]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Hi Al et al:

As many of you already know, I've requested and repeatedly pushed for the "Yamaha Music Finder" to link to and call up a Registration Bank File ever since I first purchased my Yamaha Tyros 1 when it was first released. This has included not only having Steve Deming pass on my request to Yamaha Japan (yielding no response from them), but also bringing this up personally to both Martin Harris and Simon Inkley when meeting with them at Namm. Funny thing is that they both acknowledged the great benefit of linking the MFD to Registration settings to make MusicFinder a convenient one stop place to call up your entire song repertoire (by name in a single database) & automatically pull up all it'stored associated settings (transpose, split point, etc) in REG as well.

I certainly hope some day Yamaha Japan will finally see the light, but at this point (8+ years later eek2 ), seriously doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. I only hope Yamaha Japan will prove me wrong.

Scott

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#338664 - 02/04/12 11:09 AM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: kbrkr]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Having used both Roland and Korg systems, I find the PA3X a little better suited for me than Roland, but both are excellent.
Not sure if PA3X is exactly the same as previous models.
I also like the Audya system a lot; it is totally unlike previous Ketron OS.
DonM
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#338667 - 02/04/12 11:33 AM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: Scottyee]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Hi Al et al:

As many of you already know, I've requested and repeatedly pushed for the "Yamaha Music Finder" to link to and call up a Registration Bank File ever since I first purchased my Yamaha Tyros 1 when it was first released. This has included not only having Steve Deming pass on my request to Yamaha Japan (yielding no response from them), but also bringing this up personally to both Martin Harris and Simon Inkley when meeting with them at Namm. Funny thing is that they both acknowledged the great benefit of linking the MFD to Registration settings to make MusicFinder a convenient one stop place to call up your entire song repertoire (by name in a single database) & automatically pull up all it'stored associated settings (transpose, split point, etc) in REG as well.

I certainly hope some day Yamaha Japan will finally see the light, but at this point (8+ years later eek2 ), seriously doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. I only hope Yamaha Japan will prove me wrong.

Scott


Scott thanx for trying......

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#338701 - 02/04/12 05:01 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: Fran Carango]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Time for a reality check smile



Korg's songbook is praised by most..and even owners like StephenM, that owned the Korg and Roland, has stated he thinks the "Songbook" edges the G70 "user program"....although I disagree smile


This brings me to center court... grin ...The G70 has the absolute best operating system, for getting things done..in a way that makes sense...you NEVER have to go out of the mode you are working to continue the process of editing and saving...It has the best tools for all of the above..

As an example ..when you need to use a sequencer on the Korg to edit a SMF....you have to load in another mode and re-save the edits..before going back to your performing mode...None of this flows at all..

G70 totally dominates here....

This is why I give Roland's "User programs" the edge over the Korg's "songbook"...a BIG edge.. grin


I also retain about 2,000 styles ready for selection.....and about 4,000 SMF's..ready to go..
nd the best "user program" concept.. wink


Fran,

Maybe I missed the boat, didn't have the patience or just didn't give the G70 enough time, but I gotta say I had one hell of a time juggle trying to get my mind around exactly how how "user programs" functioned. If I could have even found a way to store 500 tunes give or take for ready access I would have been one happy Roland owner. I've toyed with the idea of getting one for use in my home studio.....but as time goes on they are becoming a rare commodity.

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#338706 - 02/04/12 05:24 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: Stephenm52]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
You know I sold my G70....& I have sold many others ...but the G70 for some reason is one arranger I always missed & rethink about all the great features keyfeel, makeup tools, and of course the rich sound..its was just the weight & size that just wasn't practical for my Everyday day gigging needs. My E60 & E50 filled the void for a while but it just wasn't a G70.. wink

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#338707 - 02/04/12 05:25 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: kbrkr]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Al,

The way it appears, at least to me, is that you, and DNJ, and maybe a few others, want the Music Finder Directory (MFD) to be expanded to cover all the bases that a registration covers. Now that makes perfectly good sense to me. Doing that would allow Yamaha to eliminate Registrations entirely, which means an entire board of switches could be eliminated and a significant reduction in cost may also come into play--great idea!

The big advantage, of course, would be the ability to scroll through a huge list of songs using either the numbered switches at the bottom of the display, or the Data Scrolling Wheel. Hopefully, Steve Demming will read this and put the information to good use.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#338726 - 02/04/12 08:54 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: kbrkr]
shueymusic Offline
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Registered: 04/27/11
Posts: 648
Loc: Lebanon, PA
I would love to have a "Set List" function on the Tyros. Kind of like the Master Mode on the Motif. Have a list where you can order anything on the keyboard in your performance order. Here's an example...

"Lean On Me" - Selects your registration of Lean On Me
"Brown Eyed Girl" - Selects the SMF on your HD and the sounds you need
"My Way" - Selects a WAV file from the HD and a piano to play live
"Don't Be Cruel" - Selects your Reg to use the VH2 and Style mode
"Good Luvin" - Selects a MP3 from your HD
"Heart and Soul" - Selects a Piano to play live

One mode to point to all of the information you need to build set lists for "real" gigs. Save set lists to recall at another time or to build a library of different type of sets. Perfect for 45 minute shows... 4 set gigs... playing keys in a pit orchestra with your sounds all pre ordered (advance with a foot switch).

It would be great to be able to search all aspects of your Tyros in order to build those sets. Hook up a USB keyboard and hit "Control F" to find what you are looking for with a filter built in. Search all aspects... Reg - Styles - MDB - Audio files (WAV and MP3) - MultiPads - etc. Highlight your selection and select or paste it into your list.

Make it easier and sync it with your iPod/iPhone/iPad. Create the order within an app and send the changes to the set list... in a perfect world!!
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#338728 - 02/04/12 09:00 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: shueymusic]
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
Yep. Korgs have been able to do this for years....actually does a bit more than what you listed too!!

I do believe Scott Yee has been asking Yamaha US for several years now to simply be able to link a registration to a MF entry...

It does not require a great deal of programming (on Yamahas part) either..Quite a small amount of code is required.

The only thing I can surmise, is that Yamaha are CHOOSING not to...and I guess when you look at the millions of folks using Yamaha arrangers, the number of those asking for this link is like one grain of sand on a beach....

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#338732 - 02/04/12 09:20 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: kbrkr]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Johnathan,

You already have that feature on the Tyros MFD--it's called favorites. And, you can customize the Favorites list and MFD using Michael Bedesem's Music Finder View program, or just build the list on the keyboard.

Gary cool
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#338733 - 02/04/12 09:29 PM Re: Requested Feature for Yamaha MusicFinder [Re: travlin'easy]
shueymusic Offline
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Registered: 04/27/11
Posts: 648
Loc: Lebanon, PA
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Johnathan,

You already have that feature on the Tyros MFD--it's called favorites. And, you can customize the Favorites list and MFD using Michael Bedesem's Music Finder View program, or just build the list on the keyboard.


First of all... it should be easy to do in the keyboard instead of being done in a separate software solution. Does it put it in the order you want or is it alphabetical? Do you have to rename the songs with numbers i.e. 01-02-03??
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