Hi all, here is the video I promised Stephen....very simply and nothing flash, but I hope it gives you an idea of what it is about....

Thank you for the video demo. Pretty slick. Can you call up songs in reverse, that is, pick a song on your keyboard and up pops the pdf?

That is how Open Text works with registrations on a PSR, Tyros.

So, really saving by registrations on a Yamaha is the same basic thing as using the songbook on the Korg, along with automatically pulling up a pdf. I just wanted to point this out because all the Korg people say how this is one up on Yamaha when in my mind it's not.

I am wondering now if this Unreal Book app would work then on a Yamaha in that the Open Text program brings up the pdf using midi info also.

Thank you for getting this info out. It was a surprize to me.

http://psrtutorial.com/MB/opentext.html

Dennis,

Thank you a picture is worth a thousand words. That video puts it all in perspective very cool feature.
Since I use unreal book regularly that system should work well.

Yes Scott, I have tried that on the T4 I had for a while...nowhere near as flexible, or quick imo....it was not as intuitive, as easy, flexible or quick as using a dedicated chart organising app as UB....and it required more pre-configuring as well...

Overall I found it was WAY more clunky on the T4 and nowhere near as quick and easy...Also really difficult to run on a setlist (playlist) basis...

I know this works REALLY well for me is rock solid and requires very VERY little preparation, especially with the PAsCo app....I can have a chart linked and ready to go in about 30 seconds!!

And I get 10 hours use on battery from the iPad With careful use...ie putting the iPad ionto standby between sets, or when not needed, I can get just on three gigs (my gigs are 3-4 hours)from one full battery charge.

My UB list is at about 600 songs, so I have a LONG way to go to reach 9,999

Dennis

Hi Dennis

No, I didn't intend that one is better than the other, just that the same basic idea can be accomplished on both. I could have worded that a little better I think. I'm actually considering adding a Korg to my T4.haha

It's good to hear your comparison between the Tyros and Korg. For me, rather than play by a set list, I like to have songs in categories so if I think of a song I can go directly to that genre foler. Or, if I want to play a Latin I go to that folder and pick the one that strikes me at the moment. I'm pretty much an on the fly kind of player.

Anyway, this is great info to get out there because I think most players didn't realize it existed. That was also my intention of letting Yamaha people know they could do something along the lines you're talking about.

I have emailed Michael Bedesem, the creator of Open Text to see if he thinks the Unreal Book app would work on a Yamaha.

Cool Scott, I just re-did the post to reflect that...I thought afterwards that is not really your "go" Your post beat my edit!!!

I have different genres too, if you watch the vid closely, you can see I have quite a few pre-set genres on the list (it appears briefly so you need to be quick to catch it)...So I have a full song file listing, a genre listing, AND my set lists..

But really, I could even sub categorize those even further into temps as well...slow bossa , or slow pop, fast rock and even have them set up with tempo ranges as well...

Oh btw I can tell you now that UB will not work with a Yammie I tried already I had several emails with Michael at the time....they Yammie can ONLY go one way...it is also only an Apple app, as the developer is 100% adamant hi is NOT porting it to anything else....

Dennis

I am not familiar with Ipad -- Is this system available for a Laptop?

John C.

I had emailed Michael Bedesem about using a PSR or Tyros registration to open a pdf on and ipad using the Unreal Book. Here is his answer. Can anyone add more info on this.

He also suggested "Google “ sending midi to Ipad “ , without quotes." As a novice, I will probably not understand what I would be reading. If anyone could help on this I'd sure appreciated it.

"

If what you are asking is: could the PSR send a midi to the Ipad, which in turn brings up a pdf? That is, the PSR is still the initiator.



The Ipad would have to accept midi, and the program that processed it would have to be able to open a pdf reader (or a text program ) with the file loaded.



I have seen some web statements about non-WiFi midi input (“Users can also connect the iO Dock to their Mac or PC using the USB port to send MIDI back and forth for creative, new applications of the iPad ..).



I do not know about the pdf, but I think l opening a text window or passing a filename to a text reader would be possible.



So, given that the midi connection is viable, yes, it seems possible.



Regards,



Michael"

Scott, sending midi to the ipad is not a problem...it is having an app that will open a PDF or text file in RESPONSE to a midi command is the issue....

Also, text based charts are VERY restrictive in that all you can really get is a chord structure and lyrics...you cannot get proper charts as in with dots and notation in a text based document.

Far better to use the PDF format which does all!!!

The PDF app that Michael uses to link OpenText, does not actually respond to a MIDI message, it is OpenText which receives the midi from the Yamaha, and it then sends a command - not midi- to the PDF reader to open the next PDF in the list...(maybe a Windows batch file command? I am not really sure how he set it up)

@ John C....you can use this same system on a laptop, using an app called Music Reader as it also allows you to link a MIDI file to a chart, and then transmit it to the Korg...BUT in my view Music Reader, although being in an advanced version stage, is still NOTHING on the apps available for the iPad.

Not to mention the ease of use and crystal clarity of the iPad screen resolution...even better now with the inclusion of Retina on iPad 3....

Dennis

Just to add, I DID ask Michael all these questions back then, and his reply was that it was not possible in the way I wanted it to run....

IE using the Chart to select the appropo setup on the Korg..which to me IS the more efficient and better way to run it....