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#342099 - 03/15/12 09:01 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
vin5451 Offline
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Extremely interesting...Michael would be the one to know since he worked out the issues of sending the appropriate SYSEx messages from his Music Finder View to a PSR/Tyros from a PC with the appropriate settings (Style, Tempo, variation etc) which I worked with him closely. Since MFDB was not accessible to blind users on these boards, we needed a way to view, find and control the PSR/Tyros boards using MFDB from an alternative connected device.

This actually may be the answer for us on the Korg now but it does require a full SongBook setup but I know SongBook Editor is accessible to us. Looks like another session wit Michael on this to get more info.

Thanks,
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#342103 - 03/15/12 10:28 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Hi Dennis,

Thanks for producing that informative demo. As an iPad owner (my new 3rd gen model arrives tomorrow 3/16), and who owns the UnRealBook app too,
I now can clearly see the big advantage of being able to simply select a given song in UnRealBook and have it then automatically call up the given song's Pa keyboard's Songbook settings.
Yet another good reason to get a Korg Pa3X.
Thanks.
- Scott cool

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#342120 - 03/15/12 01:17 PM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
miden Offline
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Thanks Scott smile Yes it certainly is a great and easy system for live work!!

Being essentially lazy, I did not want to bother trying to run setlists and stuff from TWO devices, so I made the decision to run it all from the iPad.

So in effect the iPad becomes the stage controller, while the PA is the hardware device being used to produce the music!

The pa does have a limited (VERY!!) text based chart function, but for an real-world use one needs to use an external monitor, so I figured if I have to use a monitor why not, go the whole way with the iPad and get the huge advantage of full charts!!!

It is also fully compatible with the Airturn Bluetooth pedal, as there are a couple of charts I use that are multi page...more the classical side of things, Adagio for Strings, Beethoven and Bach pieces I like to play around with.

So the pedal is very handy for those!!!

As we have discussed before, until Yamaha include the VERY SIMPLE OS coding to link the registrations with a Music Finder listing, Yamaha owners will be the poor second cousins when it comes to chart reading functionality.

Of course NOT a problem if you have a really good memory system....

Ever since I started studying music (8yo) I have had major issues remembering music, even stuff I have practised for weeks... I really envy those guys who can pull a tune out of their head they maybe have not played for months, and play it flawlessly!!!!

This is why such a good system as this (PA+iPad) is vital for me...and saves HOURS of work manually transcribing charts down to a single page or less!!!! Not to mention less clutter on stage...

Dennis

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#342152 - 03/16/12 12:17 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Dennis

Just wondering how you handle songs you don't need music. Do you have it listed in the ipad or do you then go to your keyboard to pick out the song? If you use the ipad do you used a dummy lead sheet or????

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#342154 - 03/16/12 01:00 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
miden Offline
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Scott...Yes that is how I do it...either just an empty PDF with just the song name, or maybe some notes about the song...

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#342164 - 03/16/12 03:15 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
Scott Langholff Offline
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I would like to try out a PA3X to see if it will do what I want. Same for the ipad. Just don't know if I could adjust to a screen that small in portrait.

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#342558 - 03/23/12 03:54 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: miden]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Scott,

Just finished setting up a few test files using the PaSCo midi tool. What surprised me is it's pretty simple operation to setup, it takes a bit of time. Thanks to Dennis for taking the time to video and the write up he did at the Korg forum.

iPad and Songbook Korg Forum

Not sure I want to convert hundreds of tunes stored in unReal book but it's worth setting up the top 50 or 100 that I play.

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#342582 - 03/23/12 03:01 PM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: Stephenm52]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Hi Steve

thanx for the info/

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#342602 - 03/24/12 12:38 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: Stephenm52]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi Steve

Why not all? Is it time consuming, or?

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#342606 - 03/24/12 03:19 AM Re: Use iPad to remotely select Korg Songbook data [Re: Scott Langholff]
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Originally Posted By: Scott Langholff
Hi Steve

Why not all? Is it time consuming, or?


It is time consuming I would have to rename all my Fake sheets to let's say Blue Bayou to Blue Bayou 110, Fly me to the Moon to Fly me to the Moon 111, etc ( or whatever number I choose to follow the name of the tune) Also on the actual page in unreal book I would have to make a note of what number I have the tune named as. I also have to prepare a midi file to match.

It's really not rocket science,just a very mundane process. I suppose though it's a lot easier than what I had to do with the Music Pad Pro years ago and that was to scan page by page many individual sheets. Dennis suggested in another thread about 10 per night, I agree that would be the best way to do so.

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