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#347318 - 07/19/12 02:38 PM
Re: about a female vocalist
[Re: Mark79100]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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If I see a laptop being used to play SMF/MP3...strike one.
If the singer/performer spends little or no time actually playing the keyboard and is essentially a Karaoke act...strike two.
If the singer/performer is unprepared, unprofessional and can’t hold my attention...strike three.
We all have our limitations; the above are mine....I wouldn't waste my time or money to see a performer with any of the aforementioned issues.
There are too many genuine player/performers out there I can be enjoying...McRorie is one I would see again and again...he's the real deal, and despite the genre not being for every one's tastes, there's no denying he plays all parts "live"...drums, bass, rhythm, lead, vocals...he has earned the moniker "Power Single" in my opinion.
Ian
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#347319 - 07/19/12 02:40 PM
Re: about a female vocalist
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Fran, I ABSOLUTELY know what a laptop will be used for when I survey a bandstand. I can't remember when I was wrong.
I have the right to my opinion, which is, I don't like it, and I WALK AWAY! Almost everyone I have ever heard uses them as crutches to coverup their lack of talent.
It's pure preference, not ignorance. I can tell what I'm going to hear (in most cases) by looking at the kind of and set-up of a sound system and other stage equipment. Certainly, I can tell what someone is likely to play by looking at the kind and set-up of a guitar.
I guess everyone has their right to have an opinion about my opinion (gets complicated, don't you think?), but to call that opinion uninformed or silly is disrespectful.
That gets me a little bent out of shape, so I guess I'll just have to console myself on the private 747 to my job in Dubai in a week or two, or when I cash the $17,000.00 check that came in the mail today for a 15 minute film score for a local corporation. I can laugh all the way to the bank!
Again, it is my right to:
* learn all the lyrics so I don't need a laptop.
* Play music that is possible to do well with the equipment and personnel on the bandstand without "ghost tracks" which are impossible to do live.
* Choose other options than arranger play. I make more playing solo instrumental guitar at some venues than three piece bands make.
* Appreciate the arranger for what I use it for...an occasional live performance instrument, but mostly, a very good tool to do film score roughs with. I could actually use the arranger for lots of completed scores, but, if the budget is sufficient, I play all parts and hire top area musicians, even when it costs me, and no one would know the difference when mix down is complete (but ME!).
So, again, when I see a DJ, a laptop or Karaoke, I GET UP AND LEAVE! I respect others' right to doing things their way, but I DON"T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR DO THE SAME.
SO THERE!
R.
Edited by captain Russ (07/19/12 02:49 PM)
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#347321 - 07/19/12 02:54 PM
Re: about a female vocalist
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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..."Looks" is as important on stage as the vocal ability.....don't dismiss this as chauvinistic...How many homely girls do you know that are successful as singers on stage.....?....neither do I..
... Oink! Oink! Let me present: Lady Gaga (ever see her without makeup) Nina Simone (loved her but...dammmmmmn) Kate Smith (good thing she was patriotic) Kelly Clarkson (check out her early 'Idol' auditions) Carol Channing (UGH) Janis Joplin Grace Jones Susan Boyle Minnie Pearl Any of these women could make you consider 'switching teams' . I'm not saying that good looks is not an added bonus, BUT......personally, I'd rather listen (yeah, even on stage) to an ugly girl that can really sing than a pretty girl that can't. chas
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#347323 - 07/19/12 03:05 PM
Re: about a female vocalist
[Re: cgiles]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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..."Looks" is as important on stage as the vocal ability.....don't dismiss this as chauvinistic...How many homely girls do you know that are successful as singers on stage.....?....neither do I..
... Oink! Oink! Let me present: Lady Gaga (ever see her without makeup) Nina Simone (loved her but...dammmmmmn) Kate Smith (good thing she was patriotic) Kelly Clarkson (check out her early 'Idol' auditions) Carol Channing (UGH) Janis Joplin Grace Jones Susan Boyle Minnie Pearl Any of these women could make you consider 'switching teams' . I'm not saying that good looks is not an added bonus, BUT......personally, I'd rather listen (yeah, even on stage) to an ugly girl that can really sing than a pretty girl that can't. chas Chas on this rare occasion I agree with you 100%.... if you want a sex show go to a topless bar I say.... what the music sounds like to the listener enjoying it is where the beauty lies IMO.
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#347327 - 07/19/12 03:11 PM
Re: about a female vocalist
[Re: cgiles]
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Senior Member
Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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..."Looks" is as important on stage as the vocal ability.....don't dismiss this as chauvinistic...How many homely girls do you know that are successful as singers on stage.....?....neither do I..
... Oink! Oink! Let me present: Lady Gaga (ever see her without makeup) Nina Simone (loved her but...dammmmmmn) Kate Smith (good thing she was patriotic) Kelly Clarkson (check out her early 'Idol' auditions) Carol Channing (UGH) Janis Joplin Grace Jones Susan Boyle Minnie Pearl Any of these women could make you consider 'switching teams' . I'm not saying that good looks is not an added bonus, BUT......personally, I'd rather listen (yeah, even on stage) to an ugly girl that can really sing than a pretty girl that can't. chas Come on Chas, that isn't fair...we were talking about us common folks hiring girl singers... That list of Corporate marketing, over hyped, over produced "ladies"..... You do have some homely gals on that list........but there are only a couple on that list that could drop in at the CrabTrap and fill in on stage...they are not bread and butter performers..and I dare to say could not cut it.. and not just the ones that are dead
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