I have a spare one. Used very little. $3,100.
It has 61 keys.
DonM

Don why are you selling??? Wish it was 76 though! I'm just about to buy one..

So what's next?

Looks like Nigel is going to have to change the name of this forum to KORG Arranger Forum II.

I told everyone about KORG arrangers back in 2001 after two days of research, and to think that two months before I thought that an "arranger" was a "person" who did arrangements. Ha ha!

I guess everyone assumed that Yamaha's name was all over the place and made motor cycles so that they had to make the best arrangers. Heck, Technics are better than Yamahas. It took me all of 1 hour on my first trip to Hart's Music in Grand Junction to discover arrangers to figure that out.

They aren't Roland dealers, but they did have one Roland in the store and it sounded like a toy to put under a Christmas tree for the kids. I know that that's not a fair comparison. I still hadn't touched a Roland to this day, but it seems that no one else has either other than Fran that I know of. But if it only does 4 bar loops too, then it's not even in the ball game with Korg.

Folks there's a huge difference in building motor cycles and arrangers. For motor cycles you need to know how to hold a wrench, but with arrangers you need to know how to hold a chord using more than three fingers, Ha ha! Oh and you need to be able to count past four to manufacture a real musical arranger. Of course I guess you can make "Mickey Mouse" arrangers for the home player and the person who's only interested in "SOUNDS".

If things continue like this, you can bet that in 10 or 20 years you won't have to make these big big decisions of which arranger to buy. All that will be left is the Korg brand.

However, you guys are catching on (finally). So maybe the Yamaha people might catch on too, and hire some "Korg" techs that know how to make a rhythmic loop longer than 4 bars. Ha ha. Or at the least hire someone with more musical knowledge than a high school band diploma. Ha ha again!

Boy this is fun!! It may get to the point where it will be impossible for me to ever lurk again. But don't bet the house on it. I don't have much left to say. I think I bragged and expounded on everything I know about music in general.

Oh, maybe I can find a nine ball or a bricklaying forum. I might know more about those two areas than I know about music.

Oh ya know what? I just had a thought, (yes sometimes I do think before I speak, although it might be hard for someone to think that I think before I speak) in a couple of days after I open my Hot Dog Cart I could be an expert on hot dogs too.

I wonder if there's a Hot Dog Cart forum?

Oh, I forgot. If this trend continues, Korg arrangers could go the way that the Selmer Tenor Sax Mark VI went. A 1958 Mark VI for $695.00 goes on eBay now from anywhere between $5,000.00 and $18,000.00 depending on the condition.

That's the sax I had stolen out of a club one night when an ex-playboy bunny distracted me to go to breakfast and I ran out and left it in the club.

Oh the Mark VI does not seem to be all that rare either.

Oh wouldn't well all, I've heard of some excuses Brickboo but that takes the cake.. Heee Haw where's that donkey... all DonM asked if someone wanted to buy his spare KB and all hells let loose, lets see some photos of your bricks, that will scupper Don chances of selling the Pa3x

Boo, all the new arrangers have longer style loops now.

Oooops!! Thanks Don. You're a true friend. Gonna go fix myself a hot dog andI'll be quite.

Boo, I'm gonna sit right down and fix myself a hot dog, and make believe it came from you. :-)

And yeah, and my old i30's better'n yours. It doesn't have sauerkraut and ketchup slobbered all over it. :-)

124,
You got an i30? You gig with it? I bought another off of eBay 3,4,5 years ago, I had to replace the (watcha call it power plug) it was loose or something it would cut out. It must have been dropped, cause it had a hold in the case near that spot? Tthe button's work better than my original board.

I use the original to gig with. I just use the touch screen to choose the styles etc. I can usually fine them fast enough. I figure if you do all the good tunes you don't have to play a tune with a tenth of a second between tunes. They sit there with great anticipation wondering what's next.

Yup, bought it new in 2000. Used it for about eight years on gigs and it never let me down once. I've heard of people having problems with the buttons, but they must smack 'em a too hard or something, I never had a problem with mine.

I didn't use to tweak it much, just change a few instruments, basses, drum maps, etc., here and there. And used it with an 'ih' harmoniser. I've still got the i30 and the ih, but I rarely go near it these days. I bought a used Pa1XPro for a steal a few Christmases ago, and I've been using that ever since. Solid as a rock, too.

I put a video on here a while ago, you must have been one of the few people that never saw it. So check your PM's.

Please tell us. We want to know!

I'm very happy with the PA3X. I also have a Roland E50 and a BK7m. I may downsize a little. It makes no difference to the audience.
Last night I had two complete systems set up in two different rooms.
I played a 50th anniversary from 5 to 7 in the Veranda room. I used PA3X, and Logitech Z2200s. No mixer, no laptop. I have all lyrics and midi files on the internal drive, if I need them. Mic runs through the keyboard of course. Main left and right outs into left and right ins on the Logitech. It went great. There were about 30 people in the room, overlooking the city.
At 7 I walked into the other end of the building. I used Roland E50, Digitech Harmony M for voice processing, Edirol mixer and two Bose Compacts. It was packed in there so I got to crank it up a little.
I was tired at the end of the night. I played from 5 to 11 with two short breaks. Paying the price today with leg cramps.
It was worth it. He paid me pretty well, and tips were more than my regular pay.
I enjoy the touch of the PA3X keys, but my arthritic right wrist hurts way less when I use the ultra-light touch on the E50 and/or Roland controller for the BK7m.
After all these years, I can actually see the end of my full-time career on the horizon. Hope it's not TOO soon though.

DonM

Don ... I have found that as I get older, I need to hydrate more to prevent leg cramps ... water, WATER, WATER !!!

You played for 6 hours with 2 short breaks ? ... I see you play gigs like I do ...

Time to start exercising that left hand, Don! After all, nothing to prevent you from chording with the right, and doing solos with the left...

Great practice for anyone, even if you aren't having problems with your hands.

Having watched Don perform I can assure you that both hands are constantly moving. Don's left hand never remains on the keys long enough than to change chords, then quickly heads for the pitch bend wheel, variation buttons, etc... His right hand is among the best I've seen, and his mastery of right-hand instrumentation is beyond comprehension.

I can relate to his arthritis problem, though. I have it in all of my joints due to Lyme Disease. While exercise helps alleviate arthritic pain to some minor degree by strengthening the surround muscle mass, the same function also continues to erode highly inflamed joints. As I've stated many times in the past "Gettin' old ain't fer' whimps and sissies."

Cheers,

Gary 8)

I feel sorry for anyone that's too pig headed to take 5 Glucosime, MSM and chodroitan pills a day.

I'm telling you I couldn't climb the ladder with both legs on my construction site 15 years ago and the specialist told me he would have to do surgery. I've never had surgery and I can still climb the ladder.

Go ahead and be pig headed and suffer. It's your choice. Man! What can I say?

Than I gotta listen to this crap!!! They tell me, "it doesn't work for everyone." I ask, "You've tried the pills that I'm talking about?" They say, "yes for 6 months." I ask "how may were you taking?" They say, "Oh! I took one every day." Talk about pig headed!

DonM take 5 every day. Three in the morning and two around 5 or 6PM. You'll be glad that you weren't one of the pig headed ones in exactly 8 weeks. I promise.

I also give a guarantee that I can tell you how to get rid of athletes foot too. The Doctor won't. Ooops, I mean can't.

One of our forum buddies that left us a while back, emailed me a very nice note. He said he spent a fortune on his Athletes foot problem that he had all of his life. He said that he laughed at me when I told him what to do and couldn't believe that he finally got rid of it. He couldn't believe how cheap it was. Made me feel as good I bet as when a surgeon has a successful heart transplant. Really.

Wow what a thunder storm we just had here...

Had one here too. . . and I was fishing about seven miles across Caddo Lake, into Texas. Got soaked on the way back, mostly from giant waves. When it gets windy on these shallow lakes, it gets really dangerous fast. Lightening was striking all around, but we made it o.k.
DonM

Isn't this thunder storm baloney a bit off topic? I mean we're here talking about the PA3X, leg Cramps and other aches and pains and how to remedy these maladies then some idiot starts talking about thunder storms? Who would do such a thing?

Calm down Donny, I know it's you messing with my head again. You know it's an old head! Why be so mean? I thought you liked me? Pick on Uncle Dave. He's fading out on us. He must really be getting old eh?

I guess when you have exhausted 'I don't really care about what anyone here thinks', what else is left to do?

Diki, Diki,

Take it easy on my Buddy Donny eh? Let's all try to play nice, OK? I'm not the only valuable member on this forum.

We need every one to contribute even the ones that are only interested in how many styles or "SOUNDS" an arranger has and could care less about really being a musician and really not being a musician.

Remember what I said about the monkey, He's an entertainer too, but that doesn't make him a musician.

After ten years here, I'm beginning to wonder that maybe there are more of them then us. (ENTERTAINERS)

It's MY thread and I'll highjack it if I want to!
It's cloudy today. No wait, that's in my head.
DonM

I find great musicians VERY entertaining! I find great entertainers entertaining as well. Damn it, I've always liked monkeys too...

Well, I have always believed in the saw "those who talk the most, do it the least" and that certainly applies to a lot of the tosh written here...

I mean really, you guys who are now professing to be real musos and not entertainers, or entertainers who are not REAL musos

All tosh - I mean, really guys aren't you all a bit above that by now? But there does seem to have been a LOT of snobby self-serving comment on SZ lately...

Miden,

WHERE PRAY TELL ME???? Have I missed something???

Wouldn't be the first time

Miden, are there musicians or entertainers in the Outback? I've seen videos of aborigines playing mouth harps of some kind.
I think I am an entertaining musician. Or is that a musical entertainer. This is way too deep for me. I know all those jazz chords but don't feel like I have to play them every song. I used to even have one of those rootless bass players. He was adopted by wolves at the age of two and never knew his birth parents.
DonM

Yes I totally agree with you My comment was a "barb" directed at those who keep trying to make all the distinctions...it's all music, it's all entertaining and we are ALL musos in one way shape or form...no class distinctions from this little duck I can tell you...happy to listen to kooris playing trad just as much as Muse, or Roger Woodward and anything in between.

Apart from "THOSE" gig songs (LOL and we ALL know what they are )

What does Muse and Roger Woodward play? Are they musicians or drummers? I never heard of them! Are they Rappers? Can I find them on Google? Can they play more chords than me? I know 8 now, I learned another one yesterday. Lol

Tony Hughes can you translate all of this for me please?

Hi DonM,

Has this anything to do with the now leaked info on the new Yamaha S950? Maybe it's in fact much more than just a rumour and photoshop job after all...

http://forum.erteash.ir/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=5002&start=20

Henni

Henni, I love the PA3X. I came across a second one, that's all.
I can't see myself going back to Yamaha unless that make some MAJOR upgrades, which they never do.

Don

Great Don,

I also love my Korg more than my older Yamaha - but then I've neither yet had the Tyros4 or S910.

Funny, this weekend everything was set up for me to once again buy my friends Audya that he's never used. This was now the third time. I went to collect, but yet again something unplanned came up right at that moment once again preventing me from clinching this deal. I'm so severely frustated!!! It's like life itself is keeping this arranger from me.

I again listened to all my Audya demos and again I'm just blown away by it and realize that this is EXACTLY what I want for our type of music. I'm really in love with the Audya & I do not even have one...

All the best my friend,

Henni

Hells crap why you asking me about all this Boo, I don't have a clue what they are talking about, it's way above my head, it might as well be in code "C" or aboriginal, it's like me ordering your bricks in metric just won't convert from inches... lets all have a vegemite sandwich, make Miden feel like he's at home, oh and Nigel only half at home..heeeeee The Land of Plenty Australia




This all started out with Don Mason wanting to sells his Pa3x, it then went through the SZ sausage machine and now we are on conversion of your bricks Boo into metric, just go with the SZ flow Boo and don't ask any questions.

Diki,

No use trying to change a time honoured tradition, that would never do.

Actually the guy on the very right of that picture is a good friend of mine, Chuck Colcheedas who was the tour manager for "Men At Work".

And here is a song "Too Many People" I co-wrote and recorded featuring Colin Haye from "Men At Work"

Nigel,

All BOOM BOOM BOOM I like a good Ballad, but what do I know about musax...thought the photo was an Australian dole queue???

I think u just have a problem with ur hearing aid. Any use of kick drum seems to be boom boom to u.
Do you just mute out the kick drum on ur arranger keyboard?

What did you say Nigel, I missed that....