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#360266 - 02/03/13 08:56 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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The sequencer does not record audio...only midi data..


Edited by Fran Carango (02/03/13 08:57 PM)
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#360268 - 02/03/13 09:15 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
The sequencer does not record audio...only midi data..


Thanx Fran...just realized that lol..

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#360271 - 02/03/13 09:25 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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I would love to record something and post it, but I don't have a means of recording anything down here - I wish I could.

Good Luck TWD in getting the others to post something,

Gary cool
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#360276 - 02/04/13 12:54 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Dnj]
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I look forward to hearing it Donny. I think that the S950 may be the main contender for the Audya.

Although Midi is always more easy to edit than audio, this poll doesn't seem to indicate it is about editing.

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#360317 - 02/04/13 11:30 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Nigel]
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Here are some yamaha S950 Audio Drum & Midi drum styles demos..

First Bebop Style (Midi Drums) Intro, Var4, Ending (acoust bass)

Second Cool Swing (Audio Drums)Intro var1,2,3,4 end


Attachments
bebop.mp3 (131 downloads)
cool swing.mp3 (93 downloads)


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#360318 - 02/04/13 11:32 AM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Dnj]
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Third Big Band Swing (Audio Drums) Intro, var 1,2,3,4, ending.
with acoustic bass.


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big band swing.mp3 (72 downloads)


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#360325 - 02/04/13 12:23 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Fran Carango Offline
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My observation so far...The Ketron is the best (Audio drums)..
The BK5 comes real close and they are midi drums..

The s950 audio drums are decent..except they recorded with too much effects and you have to live with it..another observation,,the Yamaha midi drums sound pretty average (another term for poor) compared to their audio tease..

Still waiting to hear a recording of Ketron midi drums..( although I already heard them and believe the BK midi drums out shine the midi drums on the Ketron too)

I recall listening to audio loops in the Audya and substituting them with midi sounds...TALK about being naked..and this is within the same instrument..

The original comment by Diki seems fairly accurate...the BK is pretty close (not better) than audio drums on the Ketron...but the difference is small..and edits are plentiful on the BK..

Yamaha still needs to upgrade the midi drum kits...and audio drums seems to be a tease presently, with a test for future interest..

BTW: They all sound great compared to a decade ago..
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#360338 - 02/04/13 01:21 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Yep... weekend and Superbowl have but a crimp on my posting my BK-7m (which I think sounds a bit better than the BK-5, but that may simply be a Master Compression/EQ issue).

But yes, the only point I have tried to make is that, in practical terms, what LITTLE extra you get from audio drums is more than outweighed by the almost total loss of control you have over them.
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#360340 - 02/04/13 01:58 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Thank You for posting the PSR950 recordings. I did not think any Yamaha owners would man up actually - well done!

As Diki pointed out, At the moment we are comparing Mid range keyboards with Audya which is a little unfair, so we still need
Korg PA3X and Yamaha's Flagship the
Tyros 4 (which came out after the Audya so should be in the running)

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#360349 - 02/04/13 04:25 PM Re: The SZ Audio Drums vs Midi Drums Shootout [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Here’s my take after listening to each example. The Ketron Audya sounded most like a real drummer but a bit too busy for my taste. The Roland sounded the least realistic. The brushes, cymbal and especially the congas gave it a very unnatural sound. The Yamaha 950 seemed to strike the best balance as far as natural sound and feel. I hope we hear some Korg and compare some other styles. I really like these comparisons as it helps make more informed decisions. How many stores in the U.S. could you compare side by side a Ketron, Roland and Yamaha
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