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#363961 - 03/28/13 02:03 PM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
Diki Offline


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Been looking at new video: http://youtu.be/J4ycXbFol58

You know, 'Chord Loop' might not be a proper Chord Sequencer... Roland have an audio 'looper' on their new VR-09 synth. Let's hope they haven't ported that to the BK-9.

In case you want to know why an audio looper would be of limited use: A proper CS only records the CHORDS... what variation and where the fills are (even the style or Performance) is still totally under your live control while the CS plays. An audio looper records the loop, and that's IT... Can't do a damn thing to it.

I know which I'll prefer..!


Edited by Diki (03/28/13 02:07 PM)
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#363967 - 03/28/13 05:01 PM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
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It would be great if we could get a manual....

I note that on the VR-09 it is just tagged "Looper" and has one button only and is only for the drums- I suspect the one on the BK will be midi based...just a hunch though...

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#363968 - 03/28/13 05:13 PM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
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The looper on the VR-09 is a full audio looper with sound on sound... listen to some of the demos...
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#363977 - 03/29/13 04:10 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
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Just to avoid misunderstanding:

Keyboard is the same as JP50 and JunoStage.. regular size but no Aftertouch

Chord loop is MIDI CS, coming from older series with some improvements..

but some days and all will be clear wink
P.

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#364186 - 04/02/13 06:40 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
This is what you will get with the BK9..

A Juno Stage keybed..
Sound bank from the Jupiter50..
VE series vocal processor..
Independent screens from the BK5..


Most likely they will add..a Drawbar organ (VK) with sliders..
Chord sequencer..
16 track sequencer besides the 8 track style composer..

Benefits will be the mic input with effects and harmony..
76 keys with semi weighted keybed..
The great playback ability of the BK series..

This could be the ideal all in one lightweight keyboard..that many desire..and probally under 22 pounds...
Maybe a street price under 2 G's...(well under).

No...it will not be the replacement for the G70...but most likely a stablemate.. wink




Looks like I may be right on the money...with my description smile
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#364193 - 04/02/13 08:12 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
Dnj Offline
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Don't you think in technology alone its years ahead of the older G70 ?

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#364195 - 04/02/13 08:19 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Don't you think in technology alone its years ahead of the older G70 ?







Only the Media Player.....other than that ..what is there to improve on? smile
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#364202 - 04/02/13 11:02 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Don't you think in technology alone its years ahead of the older G70 ?

other than that ..what is there to improve on? smile


I hope not,... surprised that's not saying much in the improvement department for Roland after all these years since the G70 was released?.

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#364209 - 04/02/13 11:54 AM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: abacus]
Diki Offline


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Haven't heard word one about any Mark/Jump capabilities yet. For those of us that use SMF's as well as arranger mode, the loss of this amazingly useful function is crippling.

Maybe I have found a new crusade, now that my pleas for the return of the CS have finally shown fruit..?!

Hopefully, it won't take another 8 YEARS of pointing out the obvious before Roland come to their senses! Particularly as Korg and Yamaha (I think) already have the Mark/Jump features already.

And, for anyone from Roland reading this and going 'It will take money to add the buttons for Mark/Jump to an arranger', may I point out...

THERE IS NO USE FOR THE VARIATION BUTTONS DURING SMF PLAYBACK.

Use THEM for four Markers while the arranger is in SMF play mode.

It's NOT rocket science, guys!
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#364213 - 04/02/13 12:25 PM Re: Roland, We Are Back [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki

And, for anyone from Roland reading this and going 'It will take money to add the buttons for Mark/Jump to an arranger', may I point out...
THERE IS NO USE FOR THE VARIATION BUTTONS DURING SMF PLAYBACK.
Use THEM for four Markers while the arranger is in SMF play mode.
It's NOT rocket science, guys!


Diki ... why are YOU not working for a KB manufacturer?!? ... this use for the variation buttons is excellent ...
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