Anybody agree that the Nord C2D wins the award for the ugliest, messiest panel graphics?
They seem to have gone out of their way to make them look as different from the tried and tested Hammond 'look', and the underlay makes seeing where the drawbars actually are much harder than a plain background. You normally expect the Swedes to do elegant, minimalist, functional design, but I guess no-one's perfect..!
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The Hammond B3 is the real thing but the clones are getting closer to the real thing. My how far we've come in just the last ten years or so! Remember the early clones weren't very realistic. But today things have changed. They are much much better and they don't cost an arm and leg.
Here is a jazz player who actually compares a real B3 with a Hammond XK-3 clone. The demo was made in 2009 and he also mentions the newer model XK-3c which provides several improvements over the XK-3. You can judge for yourself but in my opinion the XK-3/c is practically indistinguishable from the real thing. It should be noted he was running both through a Leslie speaker system.
The big difference is a real B3 weighs a ton (figuratively speaking, but really really heavy nonetheless) and you need a road crew to haul it around. On the other hand, the Hammond XK-3c is fairly portable at 43 lbs and you can also micro edit the tone-wheel settings to customize it to your liking.
PS: If you want to skip the formalities the playing starts at 2:30.
All the best, Mike
Edited by keybplayer (03/28/1308:42 PM)
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Thanks for that Mike. It might be now time to pull back from arrangers a little and get back to real playing. Frank
I didn't know playing Arranger KB wasn't "REAL" playing I think the "Hammond" sound is to blown out of proportion,....there are so many great sounding organ patches on so many units, and when it's "in the mix" vs just a Jazz trio featuring a B3 etc, it certainly is more then good enough sounding clone or otherwise.
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Thanks for that Mike. It might be now time to pull back from arrangers a little and get back to real playing. Frank
I didn't know playing Arranger KB wasn't "REAL" playing I think the "Hammond" sound is to blown out of proportion,....there are so many great sounding organ patches on so many units, and when it's "in the mix" vs just a Jazz trio featuring a B3 etc, it certainly is more then good enough sounding clone or otherwise.
I think by real playing he means using both hands and feet and not relying on the boring and repetitive styles that come on all arrangers.
Bill
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Thanks for that Mike. It might be now time to pull back from arrangers a little and get back to real playing. Frank
I didn't know playing Arranger KB wasn't "REAL" playing I think the "Hammond" sound is to blown out of proportion,....there are so many great sounding organ patches on so many units, and when it's "in the mix" vs just a Jazz trio featuring a B3 etc, it certainly is more then good enough sounding clone or otherwise.
I think by real playing he means using both hands and feet and not relying on the boring and repetitive styles that come on all arrangers.Bill
IMO using "both hands and feet" in NO way guarantees good quality music by any means,....how its done isn't an issue..... but, "What it Sounds Like" is ALL that matters.