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#368693 - 07/08/13 04:29 AM Another stunning Audya feature...
Henni Offline
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Hi all,

I just found out that these also apply to the Audya. STUNNING!!! Just think for a moment what could be achieved... I quote the following from the help file as it will explain it all:

Originally Posted By: Manual
In a few words, this software compiles Wave files pre-arranged for use in the MIDIJAY (similar to those you’ll find in the DJLoop/ Groove /SFX Master Folder) and control with the Intro A/B/C/D/FILL/BREAK/END buttons.

Here are some conditions that need to be met prior to using this program to ensure fluent transistion between your files!

1.Wave files must have been created with 44.100 Hz and 16 bit attributes
2.These files should be “cut” with each one having it’s own Start and End points in order to get musical coherent loops once loaded into the MIDIJAY (good audio software will be required for this).
3.Always keep in mind that the END point of the loop should be “Cut” properly in order to avoid glitches or ‘space’ or else this could cause the loops not to be in perfect sync with one another as you change from Arr A, B, … Ending on the Midijay.

As mentioned before, the DJL COMPILER “ processes “ Wave files previously edited (cut, stretched … etc) by Audio software such as SOUND FORGE ( *TM) WAVELAB ( *TM) …etc.

HOW TO ARRANGE THESE FILES

Wave files for this DJL Compiler could have different sizes and lengths and of course could “include” information such as Markers!

Markers (see details on your own Audio software) are used to instantly skip from one point of the song to another (where pointed/marked) without playing out the complete current song measure/beat.

What does this mean?

You could select a different Wave (using A/B or Fill) whenever you like and jump to another Wave part immediately when the next Marker point is activated.

Fit Markers on your own files based on your musical jujdgement and select the “best points” to switch from one part to another. You might have to experiment with this a little bit before getting quite comfortable with it.

DJLoop are in most cases similar to Styles patterns. Remember that these file are created in order to run sequencially (with no manual chord changes from the user)…just a Loop file for you to play along with or simply listen to and re-arrange in real time!!

For this reason, you have to create your DJ-Loop with musical coherence and attributes in order to obtain a perfect combination of loops and performance with the Pattern/Style!

The DJ-LOOPS on MIDIJAY must be arranged with eight files (INTRO- /A/B/C/D/-FILL-BREAK-END) prior to compiling the final loop. If some or any of these parts are missing (or you’ve just created a few parts – less than 8), you’ll have to reuse any of the previous wave files in the other parts. So let’s say you have only 7 wave files you want to use for this loop – one of these wave files will have to be reused in one of the Midijay parts (Intro, A/B …) so in other words, FILL and BREAK might have to ‘share’ the same Wave file in order to complete the loop!

Remember all locations of DJL Compiler must be filled!!

HOW TO LOAD FILES IN THE DJL COMPILER

As soon as your Wave files are completed, you will have to load them into DJL Compiler.

Start the program by clicking on the program icon (which after installation should now be on your desk top or within your program menu).

To the left of the main screen of the program [DJL Sources Compiler], there are several boxes (Intro, Arr A …Ending) that coorespond to the equivalent buttons on the Midijay unit. This is where you’ll insert the previously arranged Wave files.

1.Press the INTRO button to access files that will be associated with the Intro button on the Midijay.
2.Browse for the file you want to use and load the Wave file by clicking on it. This file will now be used as your Intro.
3.Repeat this for the Arranger, Fill, Break and Ending buttons. You can click on the cooresponding speaker icon to hear exactly how this file will be played. This is also an exact copy o what will be heard when you press the Intro/coresponding botton on your Midijay unit.
4.The right box will provide you with the information with regards to the corresponding loaded file (such as sample rate, bit sample …etc).

Before Compiling the DJ-Loop, please set the BPM information located on the DJL Option window .

MIDJAY will show this information on DJ loop Tempo screen .


READY TO …. COMPILE !!!!

So now all files are loaded on DJL Compiler and ready for processing!

Remember that all 8 must be filled and so you might have to reuse others if you are short a couple!!

1.Press the Compile button and the DJL COMPILER will show a location where the final D-Loop file will be saved. If you have the Midijay connected to the computer, you may choose to save the loop directly into the DJ-Loop Master folder of it’s Hard drive.
2.Type the name of the file to be saved (the extension .djl will be add automatically). After a few seconds, the text “FILES SAVED” will appear on the DJL Compiler Report view. In this screen, all processing information (like Name, Size etc.) could be saved as a text ( .txt) file for your records .

Now, the Djl Loop file is ready to be transfered from your Computer to the MIDJAY DJLOOP / GROOVE /SFX Master Folder by using USB port (if you didn’t save directly to this as suggested above) .
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#368694 - 07/08/13 04:50 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: South Africa
Talk about a chord sequencer - this gives you full control over your pre-cut audio file whilst playing along live with it in any way you please.

Man, this Audya is AWESOME!!! I don't think any other arranger is so under advertised! Ketron makes great products, but they lack seriously in their marketing approach.

Keep well all my friends,

Henni
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#368701 - 07/08/13 05:56 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Henni
Man, this Audya is AWESOME!!! I don't think any other arranger is so under advertised! Ketron makes great products, but they lack seriously in their marketing approach.


This has always been their problem.....price is also a factor compared to the competition especially now that they are a few years older. But they are awesome arrangers with super features.

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#368704 - 07/08/13 06:22 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
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Too bad they don't produce a MOTL to compete with pa900 or s950 or BK9. I think they'd rock if price wise they will come up with something like that. And of course the audio-arranger found in Audya, or something of it.
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#368719 - 07/08/13 09:37 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
This seems similar to something I outlined that was possible on the BK-9, only there, you use the upper 7 keys to trigger the loops...

Mind you, on an arranger at least HALF the price of an Audya.
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#368843 - 07/09/13 11:53 PM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Diki]
Henni Offline
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Loc: South Africa
Yes Diki,

Virtually NOTHING comes for free. If I have to list all the things the Audya can do on it's own, & ask you to list all the items you'll need to do same, just MAYBE you'll start to realize why the Audya costs a little more. But then you already know. You've had one to your disposal for a trial run. All of this should not be any news to you.

On top of this, the links to the various demos tell their own story. My opinions are not based on mere hearsay. Show me anything out there that could do the same for that price...

And no longer can "support" or "a lack of it" be used as an excuse as AJ has proven exactly the opposite over & over again! I purchased mine 2nd hand from a friend, no guarantee whatsoever. If anyone should have put himself at risk, it should have been me. Yet I'm one of the most satisfied Audya users out there. And I'm out here in the remoteness of Africa! Makes one think, does it not?

Henni
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#368851 - 07/10/13 12:58 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
So you have two of them? How many weeks can you do without yours should an issue arise..?

Me, I couldn't go a day or two without it seriously affecting me. I had an issue with my G70 once. I had new parts in my town the next day, replaced out the boards and was back to work without a day missed.

Try calling Italy during one of their many holidays!

While things are great, of COURSE one is satisfied. After things go wrong, THEN tell me. Makes one think, doesn't it?!

And sorry, but 2X as much is no 'little more' in my book. Thing is, I don't NEED all that extra stuff. If I did, perhaps it would be a different issue. Got zero need for multiple mike pre's and inputs. Like most people, I have a mixer. Got WS's and VSTi's. Got an arranger that does tempo synced audio loops if I want them, got killer live sounding drums with none of the disadvantages an audio loop based arranger gives you. Got basically everything I already need, including a Chord Sequencer, which makes Ketron's 'Riff' feature virtually obsolete.

For well under HALF the price! In the US, these things are a smidge under $5000. That's serious money where I come from.
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#368859 - 07/10/13 05:43 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Diki]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
Originally Posted By: Diki
...In the US, these things are a smidge under $5000. That's serious money where I come from...


Diki,

All I can say is that my new arranger lust has died completely since I've had my Audya. Yes, I crave for any more updates to it, but that's about it.

In the long run it will prove to be not as expensive after all. One arranger does it all & I hear no demos that makes me change my opinion. No more butterflies in my tummy when I hear rumors of something new to be released soon...

And to my knowledge, something like i.e. a Tyros 4 cost just about the same. In fact, in South Africa they cost nearly a third more than the Audya through AJ!

Keep well my friend,

Henni
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#368868 - 07/10/13 11:48 AM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Henni]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
Well, you know I am not exactly a gear lust kind of guy! The BK-9 is my first arranger since I bought my G70, and that was eight years ago. And the G1000 prior to it lasted more than ten years!

And, TBH, if it wasn't for the Chord Sequencer, I might have stayed with the G70 for the foreseeable future.

Unlike so many here, I have NEVER had butterflies in my tummy whenever a new arranger is announced.
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#368907 - 07/10/13 10:09 PM Re: Another stunning Audya feature... [Re: Diki]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
Yeah,

You're right. That's why I would suggest to anyone out there: Find what you really like & then move heaven & earth to get it. In the long run it'll cost you way less.

I've seen so many posts over here on what types of arrangers should be had in order to be kitted out completely. For me the single Ajamsonic Audya does it all.

And with the likes of AJ, it keeps on getting better & better. I know the upgrades will continue to come & everyone brings with it a completely new version of my arranger.

All the best mate & enjoy your new toy,

Henni
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