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#369289 - 07/18/13 12:50 PM
Re: First Gig Without My Bose Compact
[Re: hammer]
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Senior Member
Registered: 10/20/09
Posts: 3232
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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On board speakers can sure come in handy. That's one reason sometimes I considering trading in my T2 for a 950.
I too sometimes play for very small audiences at the NH. Sometimes in small areas for folks the have memory problems or also in places where the AD locks themselves in their office and the staff doesn't do anything to help residents to the performances... But anyways, it does sometimes seem overkill to lug around a full PA system. One of my saxophone/singer colleagues that plays just about daily in the NH only uses a small boom box for his backing tracks and no mic for his vocals. Alto sax in one hand, boom box in the other- that's it. No speakers, mic, stands, lap top, books... He's in and out pretty quick. Me on the other hand, I have my T2 in a huge flight case, a keyboard stand, mic stand, pedals, books, cables, power strip, a banner... all strapped on to a cart. It looks like I'm moving into the place. Hopefully that won't be happening anytime soon (knock on wood)
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#369293 - 07/18/13 03:30 PM
Re: First Gig Without My Bose Compact
[Re: montunoman]
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
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It looks like I'm moving into the place. Hopefully that won't be happening anytime soon (knock on wood) [/quote] That's funny. Several years ago I would always say, save me a room. Now that I'm old enough to live in these places, I don't say that anymore. Joe
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#369306 - 07/18/13 08:02 PM
Re: First Gig Without My Bose Compact
[Re: hammer]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Donny has a point about singing to a room, but not every room has the same requirements, and not every singer can fill the room the same way. I sing in many laid back rooms with just the on-board speakers in the s950, and that's the main reason I have one. I have grown all too accustomed to having that "in my face" monitor, and I really miss it when it's gone. The natural acoustic sound of my voice can fill many rooms without amplification, so adding the extra sizzle of the speakers and effects is a nice blend for small rooms and background situations.
I also play my guitar AND my iPad thru those same speakers ... I need to hear the whole mix before I send it to whatever house system I use (the Bose Compact most times). I use the Bose T-1 Tone Match mixer to feed the Compact and the "aux out" feeds back INTO the Yamaha. Here's the layout: Ch1- AKG dual wireless mics (for guests) WMS40 Pro mini2 Ch2- My Line 6 modeling guitar, or new Roland G-5 modeling Strat Ch3- iPad (DJ tracks and custom backing tracks I've made over the years) Ch4- Yamaha s-950 (aux out is MUTED - very important to avoid a feedback loop from hell) ***Channels 1,2,&3 have a dedicated aux send that feeds directly into the Yamaha aux INPUT, and I have control over volume, EQ and effects from the Bose Mixer. I keep the main volume of those 3 channels at "0" for most rooms because the combined output from the Yamaha is feeding the Bose Compact and it's already premixed. In unusually loud circumstances, where I need to pump the guitar or DJ tracks or the best man is speaking too softly during his toast - I simply turn UP the main feed to the Compact and the extra volume doesn't overdrive the on board Yamaha speakers. What I hear is always a nice blend, and what the crowd hears is what they NEED to hear. It's a little confusing to anyone who hasn't used a submix before, but it's VERY versatile.
Anyone need advice on this type of hookup with your own gear ... please give me a shout and I'll talk you through it. Sometimes, having that extra control at my fingertips makes all the difference between sweetness and struggling. C'mon ... to be fair - Yamaha never intended these speakers to handle the load I give them, but with proper care - it's a great setup!
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#369356 - 07/20/13 08:58 AM
Re: First Gig Without My Bose Compact
[Re: hammer]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Thanks UD
I believe you gave me the answer to my small venues. How do you handle your vocals? Through your KB or send to Bose?
Bernie
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