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#370130 - 08/08/13 08:44 PM PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Finally had a chance to transfer the files I made on day 1 with the 900 so ... be kind folks - I recorded these on the FIRST night with the 900, and TBH - I'm still not happy. I'm more comfy than that first day, but this has been one tough puppy to love ... as far as the vocal section goes, that is. Tell me what you think, but be kind - I recorded the demos at 10am while the kitchen help was setting up, floors being waxed and servers walking all over the dance floor .... not the best setup for concentration!
LOL

This was the identical trial with 2 different mics ... I think the #1 was the Shure Beta58, and #2 is the EV 767a.
I'll post one more sample of the Shure


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desp 1.MP3 (202 downloads)
desp 2.MP3 (126 downloads)

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#370131 - 08/08/13 08:54 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave

I'll post one more sample of the Shure


Here's a better harmony trial


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ny state.MP3 (131 downloads)

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#370134 - 08/08/13 09:06 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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In headphones, it sounds like a lot of echo, but in the setting that I play - it gets eaten up, so the effects need to be exaggerated a bit. I think the overall sound is just ....muffled. It sounds like I have a sock over my mic. Any other singers buy this thing yet? I never had this much trouble getting an acceptable tone from a built in mic processor. It just sounds awful to me.
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#370135 - 08/08/13 09:08 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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#370138 - 08/08/13 09:30 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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... or maybe a midnight blue! The cheaper the mic .. the better it seems to sound!
Sigh .... I wanted this to be a slam dunk. I DO like the keyboard in all other respects, though.
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#370139 - 08/08/13 11:41 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Actually it sounds very good through my phones. I agree I like the shure better. The harmony parts could be a bit clearer. You will get there with a little tweaking.
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#370140 - 08/09/13 12:00 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
124 Offline
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Sounded okay to me, too. I think we all get used to a certain sound and with any new gear there's bound to be a period of adjustment as our ears acclimatise. Plus, we're all our own worst critics, anyway. It's highly likely, too, that the harmony unit in the Pa900 is going to be somewhat less than in the Pa3X. Price alone tells us that. Tweak on.

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#370141 - 08/09/13 01:01 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: 124]
john smies Offline
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Registered: 05/05/00
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.

I see where you are coming from Dave. It sounds a bit muffled , with slight sibilance everywhere and all I can say is that it does not sound as good as my PA800, honestly. Don't know which corners have been cut here, oh and by the bye it is not a match with the PA3X. As I mentioned before the harmoniser on the PA900 is supposed to be the same as on the PA800.

Incidentally, all the factory PADS on the PA900 are the ones already there on the PA800. Seems to me that they have been doing a lot of repackaging in China really. That having been said the multisample list of the PA900 runs well over 830 samples( same as the PA3X) whereas the PA800 only sports approx. 600. Not sure though that the internal ROM sample memory holding all these samples is the same on the PA900 as on the PA3X.As a matter of fact I would be pleasantly surprised if it were.( To the best of my knowledge the internal ROM sample memory of my PA800 is a mere 128Mb.

The PA900 is stil not out here in Europe but will hit the stores starting next week or thereabouts..............

regards
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#370143 - 08/09/13 06:18 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Finally had a chance to transfer the files I made on day 1 with the 900 so ... be kind folks - I recorded these on the FIRST night with the 900, and TBH - I'm still not happy. I'm more comfy than that first day, but this has been one tough puppy to love ... as far as the vocal section goes, that is. Tell me what you think, but be kind - I recorded the demos at 10am while the kitchen help was setting up, floors being waxed and servers walking all over the dance floor .... not the best setup for concentration!
LOL

This was the identical trial with 2 different mics ... I think the #1 was the Shure Beta58, and #2 is the EV 767a.
I'll post one more sample of the Shure


definitly #2 headphone

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#370145 - 08/09/13 06:50 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
montunoman Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
Posts: 3230
Loc: Dallas, Texas
It all sounds good to me... Too much reverb but you said it was necessary for the room. Maybe a PA 600 with a separate vocal effects unit would work for you?
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