It came out Monday and now 3 days later Wednesday it seems like the excitement has slowed to a crawl at least on the forums?

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/tyros5/

I hope not, haev opinns drasticly changed since it's release or?.... Yamaha has really hit the mark with this new offering. I for one want to see and hear home & pro Players demos as they come out on you Tube etc.

Ditto seems like it's been a flash in a pan, here today gone tomorrow.

We ( and I ) waiting for delivery , ordered the T5 last Monday

Impuls

But after all negative comment here in the past, people go to
other forums, where people having more pleasure with there new
keyboard , instead of bashing off each other instrument.

Why is every negativ comment means we are bashing the instrument?Why do people take it too close to the heart?
It's just some plastic and wires.Trust me , it has no soul.And I am not talking about T5.They are all the same.Yamaha , Korg, Roland...whatever.
Boo Hoo, someone is bashing T5.Who cares..Maybe we should just say "haleluya" for whatever Yamaha comes out with.Or any other manufacturers. As long as people are behaving like babies, Yamaha and the other companies will give us keyboars like this.Baby steps is all they need to take to get our attention. And we don't deserve any better.

I look at it like Christmas presents under the tree,......
you look at all of them wrapped up with pretty paper & bows for a month before Xmas all excited wondering who they are for and whats inside,......then on Xmas morning you run downstairs and mom & dad start to pass out the gifts, ....and then it happens, YOUR name is called and you grab the box, ....open it wildly, look inside,...and WOW!! your surprised and go nuts for a few minutes, but then, you calm down, and although your very happy you received it, your looking for the NEXT present with your name on it.

And you end up playing with the box.

What, you read minds or what??? What is my reaction?

But, after the initial excitement you calm down, and start to dig inside this wonderful instrument and a BIG SMILE comes on your face because you know you made the right choice for you, and now the FUN begins and you make TYROS 5 your very own.
Life is Good!

Haleluya! !!!

This is definitely NOT the forum to share any kind of Tyros 5 enthusiasm.

Case in point during the 1st day of release:

"All this Tyros frenzy has tired me out. I need a break from this forum or maybe a TylenoI instead of another Tyros post. I can't believe all the excitement over a keyboard no one has touched yet. And pre-ordering before a live in person demo, that's too brave for me. Almost every topic is Tyros. "

I'll keep my enthusiasm to myself where I know it will be cherished and appreciated.

C'mon - give it a break. Or, are you one of those guys that bash everything they don't own? Or is it jealousy? Don't bash my cars, boats, electronics or keyboards - I DO take it personal! I don't bash your stuff - don't bash mine.

Cheers,

Gary

Ian

Come on Gary.Who says I am not going to get T5 or any other keyboard.But, unlike some I will not be baby about it and cry when someone says something bad about T5.There is many things I do like about It.But there is also a lot of things I don't and I will say it even though some religious Yamaha fanatics will call it bashing or trash talking.
We still don't know how drums sound on non audio styles, or if we can make our own samples or just simple sound editing.Lots of it is still in dark.
On an instrument that came strait from "Gods" hands we should have all these things.

I have pa600 and trust me, there is many bad things with it that I don't like and whenever I can I will say them.But, baby pa600 is only $1000 so I gotta give it some slack.
I am sorry if I made some boo boo's by asking and talking bad things about T5.Just blow on it and pain will go away.

Where are the other forums. I for one tired of all the bashing before they have even played one I would like to hear some good inf not all this negative stuff. Let look at the glass half full. Like the song say's on the sunny side if the street.

Thanks Don

And here:

http://yamahakeyboardkapers.myfreeforum.org/forum88.php

http://www.yamahakeyboard.co.uk/forums/?page=t&fid=53EFFEFA-618A-4017-BA4E-6EDC68D0CD65

Ron the good comes with the bad,....even with T5,.......but I think once it gets in the hands of players and then they can really make opinions, play it and explore the T5 were only gonna get here say form nay sayers, jealous people, and haters, just ignore it and enjoy your music, SZ isn't the last word. .....
hang in there the cream always rises to the top my friend!!

I second the opinion to stay away here.

Thanks Donny I am excited to tell you my Christmas Cd come in on Friday it turned out pretty darn good I am excited about this project I got good early sales already. Looking to sell at least 1,000 during the next 6 weeks I will send you one for your review. I will post a song on synthzone for all the guys to hear. I did it with my Tyros 4 and my acoustic Protools 10 HD In 2 sessions and one mix session for the time I spend it turned out pretty good. Getting interest in in LA I do not know how to post music on synthzone if you can give me some pointers thanks. Ron

I've gobbled up every bit of Tyros 5 stuff I have found. My Tyros 4 is sold. My Tyros 5 is ordered............Now it is a waiting game for real reviews, especially reports from those who get their T5's first. I expect that to be mid or late December.

Even I can't maintain the level of a frenzy that long. But I guarantee my frenzy will be instantly restored when my baby is delivered. -charley

Good on you, Charley. Nothing beats a good dose of enthusiasm.

Guys, we are just talking here.It's a discussion. We are all trying to find more info.

I'm in the same boat, you are Charley!!

Sold the T4 for a great price and just purchased the T5.

Hey, your in my backyard in Punta Gorde - I'm in Tampa/St. Pete.

We should plan a Central Florida get together. I think there are a few others from the area on this forum.

I'm hoping to sail to your neighborhood in 2015 if my body parts hold together. Would love to see Charlie again.

Gary

Yawnnnnnnn .... you guys make the forum be what it is. It's nothing to do with SZ, it has no opinion of its own.

Nigel,
This forum or you are NOT to blame, only a few people that persist in slamming and judging instruments they haven't touched ever.

I'm sorry this keeps happening here and makes members leave.

Roel

Thanks Roel, I appreciate that you understand.

I agree with Roel. And it's not really their opinion I have issues with; I actually welcome contrasting opinions to strengthen my own. It's actually the tone and the way they come across. It seems to be an overall lack of personal respect,civility, friendship, and camaraderie. When a member get's a new keyboard on this forum, whether it's a Korg, Roland, whatever, I am happy for that player. I don't denigrate that members new keyboard by complaining about their post or their excitement. Can everyone else say the same?

@Gary,

Please let me know when your next cruise embarks, I'd love to meet both of you gentlemen and have some "refreshments".

When are you going to retire down here Gary, the weather is amazing!

Regards,

It's just a simple discussion. We are all happy when someone gets some new toy.Why do people take it personal?
It is becoming like religion. And with any mass religion, you just nod your head and say yes no matter what they throw your way.Don't think too much, you might not like the answer.
Lighten up.

Al, I hope to make another cruis down to Florida in September of 2015, if my health holds up. As for retirement, my wife says I have to be dead at least three days, then I can retire and do anything I want.

cheers,

Gary

We should plan a Florida get-together..........clink!!

I think you're right, Charlie.

Gary

This site has never been as soft and fuzzy as some of the others I belong to. This is more of an observation than a criticism. There are some strong willed individuals with strong opinions here. I have made some friends here and have learned many things here........ But there could be some improvement to the mutual respect here. It sometimes reminds me of the difference between FOX and NBC news. Same news stories covered so differently.............but diversity is the spice of life I suppose? Sometimes I prefer saffron to hot peppers.........-charley

Fox news usually forget one little thing which is crucial for a news station.FACTS.hehee

Don't they ALL!!!

That's true Tony

The sad thing is, on a forum SUPPOSED to be for the discussion of arrangers, for the comparison of them, and for general arranger related conversation, the idea that ANYTHING less than glowing, fawning, gushing approval is 'bashing'.

I can't tell you how many times I have tried to point out that these things are TOOLS for making music. Music actually is the IMPORTANT part, the tool far less. If you are so invested in your purchase that legitimate criticism sends you into apoplexy, then yes, I suppose you OUGHT to spend all your time in one of the manufacturer specific sites.

And there are legitimate criticisms of absolutely ALL of them... Every single arranger made has weak points, often addressed by features on another brand of arranger. If the thought of this is enough to drive you into a bubble of denial, if it is enough for you to go into attack mode, if you can't discuss in a rational tone things that, deep in your heart of hearts, you'd REALLY like on your current arranger (and will welcome them with open arms should your favorite brand actually add it!) but can't bring yourself to talk about sensibly, then no, this ISN'T the place for you.

There are many sites you can spend your time on where you can pretend that other brands don't even EXIST, and where there is nothing on another brand of arranger you'd really like. But if you choose to make this place your regular stop for arranger discussion, perhaps you had better start to open your mind, and stop being so damned defensive...

If it all wasn't so sad, it would be funny...

Actually, it IS hilarious.

Blah, Blah, Blah
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Synthzone... Intelligent members, check your brains at the door.

Now, where's that middle finger emoticon, so I can join in in this 'debate'?

Why not move all this Yamaha stuff into Yamaha part of SZ, or simply put what's in SZ Yamaha here at Gen Arr. and rename it to Yamaha Defenders Zone?

Nah Jonny,

That wouldn't keep Diki from kicking the door in, but it would be nice to have a Yamaha SZ only password that only the chosen few could enter, never happen its called freedom of speech, some very nice new voices on the T5, if you want to make real nice music the T range is perhaps the best, lets face it, it out sells everything in its path and I think always will, the T4 to T5 swap out will be in gear now, I might dip my toe in the water after I have finished my new driveway. Got to stop now can't have post as long as Diki's, no use me commenting on any of Diki posts I never get past half, same with my Doris when she starts banging on.

Well spotted DMAC and your are only a Junior Member

Why should it?
I was not thinking of any person or member, but since the majority of topics here are about Yamaha.....

Regarding Diki, if people here read what he write without jump stright into the "Yammie Defence Club" all the time, it probably will end up in a far better debate.

Do you really thinks so Jonny, I think we should all give it a try then, still can't promise I will ever read any of his posts to the very end I would rather listen to our Doris if the truth is known, can't say I would learn anything off Diki I don't already know, sad to say, maybe others can.

Sadly, the biggest defect my keyboard has is ME!

Well for Diki sake all press is good press it seems he get more attention here then the Keyboards. . !!!!!!!!!!!

There is no Talibans like Yamaha Talibans

It's times like these, Mirza, that I thank God I'm an atheist.

Ian

Amen to that Ian.Me too.Both in religion and in keyboards.Fanatics are fanatics no matter which kind of religion.

Diki would be unhappy if he were hung with a brand new rope. If you look at page 2 of the forum, nearly every post ends with negative comments by Diki. A few folks, including himself, claim no one really reads what he says, and that everyone misinterprets his comments. We read them, and read them thoroughly. No one said he was not intelligent. He just has a way of really pissing people off with his negativity, particularly when commenting about one of the world's most popular arranger keyboards, amps, mics, keyboard stands, computers, etc..., and the people that use them. If those comments were constructive, helpful to those that use those arranger keyboards, or other products, they would be better received by the masses of this forum. My primary reason for coming to this forum 11 years ago was to garner information from those individuals that had a lot of first hand information on arranger keyboards, sound systems, and performing. That information was here in abundance and I for one, got a great education from a number of caring individuals. At that time, there were no pissing contests, at least not that I can recall, just a bunch of players that were more than willing to help others improve their arranger keyboard skills and knowledge base.

Over the past decade, I've traveled more than 20,000 miles to meet with some of the forum members in person, see how they set up their equipment, see their performances first hand, learn about their marketing techniques, etc... I had the good fortune to shake the hands of Don Mason, Donny Pesce, Dave Boyd, Fran, Eddie Shoemaker, Scott Langholff, Joe Waters, Tony Madalone, Randy (Saxman)Sherwood, Ray Bastianelli,Hank Bowman, Bob Lee, Jimmy (Jimsax) McKinny, and dozens of others. I've learned a lot from each and every one of them and am forever indebted to these individuals for their assistance and friendship over the years. Hopefully, it has been a two-way street and I have always endeavored to provide as much help to them as they have to me, something I've always felt was the basis of this and other forums of similar ilk.

Staying on topic, I sincerely believe the excitement of the Tyros 5 is in it's infancy. I'm confident that this arranger keyboard will provide players with a wide array of features that will ultimately make them more enthusiastic and better player/entertainers. Diki began condemning the T5 before the first one came off the production line, and it's that kind of negativity that has no place on this, or any other forum, at least IMHO. Yes, Diki, I HAVE read what you wrote, and so has just about everyone else.

Good Luck,

Gary

Would ANYONE be happy being HUNG??? even if the rope were made of gold fiber ???
I worked with a guy who used to say "Some people would complain about a paid holiday" ...

Gary why let it bother you,? ......just ignore it, whip up a batch of Kickapoo Joy Juice and enjoy the day.........
by you writing a long tirade he wins and gets your goat!!
remember the quote from the movie the "Godfather"............
"Never let them know what your thinking"..

I agree this just feeds him and his negativity the Time stared posting he ripped me for my spelling errors and lack of grammer he does not know me at all maybe I might have a issue with that but it was out of Line his comments, but you know the song say's bad bad leroy brown was the baddest man in the whole Dam town I think his cred it starting to take a hit and by not going too much into the comments he said it all comes out in the wash.

Maybe the goast of Christmas Future will come to his house this Christmas. Bah Humbug !!!!!!!

WOW! Don't you just love how much the above post helped everyone? It was so beneficial to the entire membership of this forum!

Diki,

I don't get you. Sometimes you come up with some brilliant points and ideas. Other times you sound like a complete ass.

Do you take meds for your dual personalities?

Geez...it's just a keyboard forum. Take a freakin chill pill.

Maybe if some guys wouldn't take it too close too heart when anyone says something against Yamaha keyboards than maybe we could say it's just a forum and it's just a simple discussion. And also there is no "tone"..It is just a discussion.

Ah, such wonderful sarcasm, Gary, and it's so useful, because simply arguing with unpleasant people isn't nearly as much fun.

I believe the above post has at least some merit, Gary. We have just seen a perfect example of how not to post on SZ.

Defamatory posts, such as the one you are referring to, are indicative of someone who absolutely craves attention, at whatever cost.

And, the only way to deal with such mindless,disrespectful rhetoric, sprinkled so liberally with personal attacks, is not to reply, and therefore leave our attention addicted poster stranded in his own excreta.

Like you, I come to SZ to enjoy myself and have fun, not waste my time responding to people who appear to be here only to spread negativity and get noticed in whatever way they can.

Ian

How do you post emoticons anyway?

Chill out Ian.Most of the time I am just kidding here,otherwise I would not post at all.I never mean anything bad.I really don't care which brand anyone plays.To me they are all the same,and none deserve real respect because they are selling us same crap year after year.Non of them will ever have my loyalty.To me they are just necessity.Now,is it Pepsi or Coke.It's pretty much same bs.

There's a fine selection here, Chony.

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/

Go to the categories on the left and choose one you need. At the opening page, simply click on the smiley you want, copy the BBCode in the upper box, and paste it in your post at the appropriate spot.

Some categories have several pages to choose from.

Also, if you switch to full reply screen, there are emoticons in the last box on the left (the one with the smiley in it).

Simply click on the smiley box, and choose from the opening selection by simply clicking on the one you want.

I find them handy...and they can sometimes say more than a lot of words.

Ian

When 2% of the membership do 90% of the posting, you have to wonder who 'craves attention' or even what else they do with their lives. When you start averaging 10-15 posts a day, seven days a week, you just might be spending waaaayyyyyy too much time on this (or any other) forum. Anyone reading these posts for the first time would be hard put to believe that the average age of these 'high school girls' is around 65 yrs. Be nice to see some new names posting for a change. JMO, of course.

chas

Hey, Mirza...my post was not directed at you, but to a post Gary was reffering to.

I don't care if someone disses my keyboard, but I don't like it when they diss me (or a group of people) because I/we chose a certain brand or model.

That's personal.

I often wonder if these Internet bullies (wise guys) would have the nerve to speak face to face in the same way they do under the protection of the web.

I seriously doubt it. They are usually cowards.

Ian

I agree all I wanted to do is post my thoughts way back when and I was attacked by our friend so my intention is to talk about great Keyboards not this mindless stuff AKA THE JR MEMBER.

Some are even older Chas...by the way, how old are you?

Of course most SZ posters actually like to use arrangers, and some are lucky enough to be retired and have lots of time to do nuttin' all day.

Worst about doin' nuttin'...you never know when you are done.

That's why I like to play at least two, three hours a day, usually more...that's what retirement is all about, isn't it...finally time to play at whatever we choose?

I'm starting to wonder where I found the time to work.

Ian

I am always astounded by the lack of comprehension of simple English here...

The truth is, if Yamaha people didn't raise their hackles at the slightest criticism of anything to do with their precious babies (or is that simply how they want to behave?), and actually involved themselves in the debate, rather than going into naked attack mode at the mere mention of something that Yamaha MIGHT be able to improve, the tenor on this forum might be FAR less confrontational.

So far, the only negativity I have directed at Yamaha is over the FACT that, despite the S950 being out for well over a year, and having read PLENTY of negative feedback about the audio drums features FROM S950 USERS, not just interested observers, and after much fuss has been made about the inability to put a simple audio loop up on a multipad, or trigger it automatically on the 'one', something that is so basic and stupidly obvious, even 'lesser' manufacturers like Korg and Roland and Ketron got it right, the mere MENTION of these immediately brings on two things...

First is a complete ignoring of the POINT... There hasn't been ONE SINGLE POST by a Yamaha user/fan addressing why the arranger should NOT be able to loop audio, or asking why something so obvious should appear on the $5000+ flagship after the mistake was pointed out on the S950 a year or more ago. Not only can you not loop any audio (so there goes 99% of the use of the feature) but you can't even cue it to be triggered on the 'one', so if you have anything rhythmical in your multipad audio, you have to trigger it manually on the 'one' yourself, and heaven help you if you are a TINY fraction off..!

So far, trying to talk about this has only elicited comments about my BK-9 (I'm not the one denying there's any problems, or refusing to talk about them), and then personal attacks of the usual schoolyard bullies here.

I swear, I really need to start an 'Attack Diki personally here' thread, so maybe the rest of the forum can remain focused on talking about arrangers... But where is the fun in that? Seems a few here salivate at the least opportunity to join in the bear baiting...

If you don't want to discuss ways that Yamaha (and everybody else) can improve their arrangers, make them musically more powerful, and would like a forum where all we do is pat each other on the back, congratulate each other on their latest GAS, listen to excremental user demos and go 'How superb!', maybe you could start one and stay there. This forum, before certain people tried to turn it into the 'Yamaha can do no wrong' forum, USED to be somewhere we could discuss the present and the future of arrangers.

How low it has fallen.

.I..

Not loud enough?

.I.. ..I.

LOL

Typical SZ'er before reading Dikipedia....

Typical SZ'er after reading Dikipedia....

Me after reading Dikipedia.....

Me after buying Tyros4...

Me after playing Tyros4....


Me after hearing BK-9 demo...

wow..........the topic of this post has certainly derailed.............

Don't worry Charley...the Tyros5 still isn't in the hands of players yet...things will pick up for sure.

There's certainly lots of excitement on all the Yamaha forums.

Ian

I for one look forward to seeing and hearing a T-5 in demos & in person some day in the near future as I do the next S-series model too, maybe I'll bring Fran to assess it too.