Enjoy

Bill

Cool
Thanks Bill

Nice demo.I am really glad he played an upbeat music.Although by the look of the crowd it was probably too much

Now if Yamaha will officially bring the cat out of the bag and answer so many questions we have.

Glad to see Michele demoing again.......right off the bat hardly any applause after the first song well cant blame them look at the age group in attendance ...where are all the young people there???? ...bad song choices IMO,..... but the T5 sounds wonderful and in the hands of a pro should do very well...

... and where are all the young people here????
Not too many if any I assume.
In another post here at GenArr "old farts" are mentioned, but as long as we're young in mind, who care...

Btw, Nice demo.

The T5 demo tours have started over here in Europe so keep an eye on YouTube for postings.

Here are 3 more from the UK to keep you happy.

Enjoy

Bill

Nice demos but lets be honest here, .....theres nothing Ive heard "SO FAR" in these T5 that can't be done or sound like on a T4/S950 what am I missing?

A couple of meaningless (?) observations:
1) the crowd is MOSTLY old(er) folks ...
2)obviously the weather is cold - they all have their coats on even though inside ...
3)the crowd does not look happy ... ?!?!?
4) the KB sounds really good ...

Regarding #1, when was this demo given?... was it a week day when most younger people might be working? Surely there are SOME young people interested in Arrangers ...

The Tyros4's Brass/Trumpet patch in Fanfare For The Common Man was pretty much identical to what Keith Emerson used on his Yamaha GX-1 synthesizer, which was $60,000 in 1973 (well over $300,000 in today's dollars), and just the voice cards alone weighed more than a Polymoog (82 lbs)...total weight was over 300 kg (661 ibs) without the pedal board.

Nice to see it packed in a relatively svelte 32 lb instrument.

Good demos, Bill...thanks.

Ian

Bill all of the links have gone?

Tony these people were probably "invited guests" for the T5 Demo by the music store so you can see who they targeted for perspective buyers at that price ...

Sort of runs counter to the youngish guy in the Yamaha ad. In Bill's other thread.

Interesting observation backed up by many here in SZ. Why doesn't Yamaha market this as a modern instrument for the young musician. All they have to do is add dance, DJ, and audio looping features and this board would be in every dance floor.

What's interesting is that the Pa3x user base seems to be younger and korg seems to focus more in that demographic.

As a former T4 owner, I can tell you unequivocally the T5 sounds MUCH different than the T5. The drums on the audio styles played by Michel sounded awesome. And I love the sound of the "Guitar Tuning" effect. That was awesome. The ensemble on Fanfare just doesn't sound as good on the T4.

What more do you want Donny? I don't get it?

Plus, what is it with all the "Old People" references? Are we getting discriminatory now as well? Is everyone implying the T5 is for old people? (that's the demographic for almost everyone on this board!)

Almost every song Michel played was a Rock song and those new guitars really give the keyboard a nice edge?

Rock songs they were, but nothing newer than 35 years old. How does that fly with a 20-something?

Easily Eq'd drums , guitar to come very close with the T4/S950...Im still not that impressed to a point over the T4/S950that it BLOWS ME AWAY sorry.

... and I 'resemble that remark' ... but based on the audience in the demo vid, it certainly seems that Yamaha is targeting an 'older' clientele ...

Bill can you just post the links to the files as ipad not seeing correctly.

Thanks Robbo

Not many young adults (20 - 30y, my age category) have to luxury to be able to spend nearly $5500 on a keyboard. That's at least my experience in the Netherlands and the reason why just adding some 'DJ functions' does not change the target audience for a Tyros.

I'm 33 years old and have owned every Tyros since I was 23. Not because I'm rich and can afford a $5500 instrument, but because it's how I make my living.

That said, who pays $5500 for a Tyros??? I paid $3350 brand new for my T4, and under $3900 for T5. Does anyone actually pay the full price???

The retail price (what you pay) in the Netherlands is €3999 ($5414) for the 61-version and €4199 ($5685) for the 76 version. Welcome to Europe

Ian, Keith Emerson came to mind as soon as I heard that patch too.

Hi Robbo

Try changing the settings as they work fine on my friend’s iPad, however here are the direct links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBPwPARhTnc&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aU6TMOnN5cE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IKTmFOoofeY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8VJOsNVlNwM

You can also right click the videos to get the direct link.

Enjoy

Bill

Tyros 5 OOTB + Pink Floyd Guitar

Enjoy

Bill






Direct Links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2wgAxayP2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFr5-OAvv3c

In another thread Ian (who has worked for Yamaha) outlined very precisely the Tyros potential buyers: people in their 60's or over, who have a rather comfortable income and who, in their younger years, had an interest in music but had to sacrifice it to the 9-17 routine, in order to make a living, rise a family, etc.
Well, now they have finally risen their families, don't have to work anymore, are relatively free from the everyday worries, and can go back to their first love, neglected for so much time: music.
Of course in all the years spent working they were unable to keep up their chops, but here is the trick: Yamaha gives them a plug and play instrument, that sounds great right out of the box. Just select one of the intros and one of the OTS and you will sound like a CD and all your friends and relatives will listen with an open mouth, even if you play in one finger mode.
Who needs multipads that can loop, a voice creator or deep editing facilities? All they want is to sound like the musical heroes of their youth, and Yamaha here delivers big time! Ever wondered why even in the newest Tyros 5 demos there are so many voices and styles that emulate the sounds of groups like the Shadows? And why so many people use an arranger to play songs like Apache, that were originaly written for an electric guitar? Because they grew up listening to Hank Marvin, and now can finally sound like him, that's why.
If you want to understand the psychology of the Yamaha people you have to go to sites like the PSR Tutorial Forum and see what kind of reasons they come up with to justify the upgrade to the Tyros 5. One of the most common is, more or less: you can't take your money with you when you are dead, so, as long as we are here, let's enjoy life and get us a new toy, if we can afford it. After all, we deserve it, don't we?
Kudos to Yamaha for having targeted precisely this kind of audience and potential buyers.

100% CORRECT. However, if I'd said that, I'd be promptly accused of "looking down" on arranger players........I don't, I just accept them for who they are, the population you have described above. Except for a handful of OMB's that label themselves as 'Pro's' (getting paid to entertain 'old folks' might make you a 'pro' but not necessarily 'pro quality', especially in the eyes of the REAL 'Pro' community of well-trained, talented, musicians). From what I've heard during my 10+ years here, there are maybe 3-4 pro-level musicians here, the rest (working 'pro's) are able to make a living mostly through sheer force of personality, modest vocal skills, and very good business sense. Kudos to them, I say. Especially if they're having fun doing it. You don't need a $5000 KB to do this, however, and despite the justifications they put forth for buying a TYROS5, the REAL reason is probably just because THEY WANT ONE. 'nuff said'.

chas

Forgive the run-on sentences, I wasn't in a 'paragraph' mood today.

A great tune, Steve, here are ELP "warming up" in Montreal with Keith on that awesome GX-1. Strangely appropriate, Yamaha's Tyros5 arranger has carried on the legacy of this great early "arranger" (it had autoaccompniment & drum machine), although Keith probably only used those features at home.

Congrats on your new Tyros5-76!

Guys, when they take the "single finger, easy play auto-accompaniment" out of Tyros, PA3X-Pro76, Roland G-70, BK7-m, and Audya, PSR, and all the other arrangers, we can finally consider them "pro" arrangers, or more appropriately, arrangers designed solely for the advanced player.

But thankfully, most of us pros aren't that insecure to let a detail like that get in the way of us using these instruments to make money, do compositions, or just sit down and play for our own enjoyment(I've been liking that last one a lot lately).

Mmmmmm? Chas, has/had a Tyros2...why did he buy it? The REAL reason is probably just because HE WANTED ONE, single finger chords be damned...he knew the risks involved.

All these very clever arranger making companies laugh all the way to the bank.

Ian

PS...I love this place!

whats wrong with single finger play? who cares how you play it?.....its what it sounds like that I care about.
For me "PRO" = getting paid to play nothing more..

Exactly, Donny. Nothing wrong with single finger play. If there was, it wouldn't be on all these arrangers in the first place.

Ian

Susan Albers plays classics on Yamaha Tyros 5

Enjoy

Bill

Agree!

Yep, I never ever saw a U-Haul trailer in a funeral procession.

I always liked that bumper sticker on the senior couple's Corvette convertible, "We're spending the children's inheritance".

Ian

This is what makes arrangers arrangers... there is something for all music styles in there

And for the older ones, this is a young girl playing an arranger.

Never mind the T5 arranger there's something of greater interest in that video

Your right Steve that great K&M pro KB stand I love mine!!

Bachus....simply and utterly BEAUTIFUL!!!!

And the music is pretty darn excellent, too.

Steve, how did you manage to notice the Tyros5???

Ian

WOW! That lady can really play.

Thanks for the link,

Gary

OH, Ste-e-eve ...

I'll bet Steve meant the beautiful ring on her finger...