There is no point for you to get another arranger.You still didn't mention what kind of sounds you seek.

I did think about Roland Integra 7.It has almost all of the sounds made by Roland.But, you need a keyboard too.You could get really good controller.Or, what about Korg Kronos.It has 9 different synth engines.Plus a full sampler and steaming samples up to 2 gigs I believe.I wouldn't get another Yamaha.T4 has good acoustic sounds anyway.There is also Roland BK9 with great styles and sounds too.Basically it's all up to you and which kind of sounds you want to add.There is many more choices...

That's what I would suggest. Roland Integra plus one of the Roland master keyboards, e.g. the A800pro, which has 61 keys and only weighs 4.5kg (9-10 pounds). With the Roland Integra you get a choice of 6,000 sounds; not all of them are up to date, but a large part is absolutely premium, especially the SuperNatural acoustic sounds (>250) and about 2,000 sounds from the integrated SRX expansions.

the kind of sounds I would like is analog and acoustic.
you may say the tyros 4 has a lot of very good sounds, I do agree. But, you know it, we still want more and more

I have watched a demo of the Jupiter 50 keyboard and I was really impressed.
I wonder if the Integra 7 has all those sounds (Jupiter 50) too ?

I don't think the idea of a master leyboard suit me
what a pity I may say : I have room for another keyboard (76 keys ?) under the Tyros 4.
Why not a Korg pa3x instaed of a Roland master keyboard?
+ a roland integra 7
best of both worlds ?

I find the perfect second keyboard for me is the Korg Kronos. It has sounds and customizability not available in an arranger keyboard. Having 9 synth engines on board certainly helps. I have a 61 key Kronos and that should complement my T5 76.

Yes, the Integra has all of the Jupiter 50/80 sounds and many, many more. You can download the PDF tone lists on the Roland support pages. The Integra has more supernatural sounds than the Jupiters, and the complete library of 12 SRX expansions, which the Jupiters don't have (special strings, brass, complete orchestra, world etc.).

Ian,Dreamer,

Having read your comments here I started listening some demos and reading some reviews on this new Casio wonder. I nearly thought they had it nailed for me until in the final sentence I read that they had omitted a Sustain pedal connection ?????
No sustain ? Am I missing something here ?

regards,
JOhn

John,

if you follow this link you can download the PX-5S tutorial. At page 9 it says that you can connect two kinds of pedals: one to damper a sound and another that acts more like a switch; both pedals can be configured to activate different functions, depending on how you program them.
Some piano purists over at Keyboard Corner have complained that the PX-5S lacks the half-pedaling function that other digital pianos have, but apparently there is a workaround: you just have to buy a different kind of pedal from the one that Casio includes in the case.
Rest assured that, even with the small pedal that comes with piano, you can sustain (or damper) a sound at will.

Hi John,

The PX-5S has two auto detect pedal inputs, and, being a "Piano" based synthesizer it surely must have a sustain pedal function assignable to either. I see Dreamer confirmed this for us above.

However, I believe that neither pedal input will support a volume pedal (Dreamer can correct me if I'm wrong), which, in all likelihood, must be an in-line type of pedal (in between line-outs and amplifier/PA system. I don't think a volume pedal can be used to sweep the filter either.

Every review I've read has rated this keyboard very high indeed, although I'm not sure our local Long & McQuade carries it.

256 notes polyphony! Phrase Sequencer and an Arpeggiator!! 88 Scaled Hammer Action II Keys (Tri-Sensor) synthetic ebony/ivory Keys!!!

If things go as planned in the new year, I'm going to get me one of these puppies!

Ian

PS...Dreamer, I know I'm probably asking too much (especially at the suggested price), but can you process a line in signal (i.e. from another synth) through the PX-5S's filters??

The answer is actually quite simple, the perfect companion for a Kronos would be the new tyros 5... Because it adds what the kronos lacks. Great arranger styles out of the box, and awesome acoustic instruments (sa voices) which is in my opinion the weakest point of the Kronos.

If you want 2 keybaords tyros and kronos is the way to go, espescially if you allready own a tyros 4/5. Personally i would go for a 76 T5 and a 61 kronos. however the 88 key Kronos has one of the best piano keybeds available, so espescially if you are a piano player, this could be a great option.

[video:youtube]http://youtu.be/Wq-Czb-Ramg[/video]


Hee is a video explaining the advantages of Kronos and casio PX-5S from the viewpoint of a pro musician.

Ian,

as far as I know the signal coming from the line or audio inputs bypasses the filter section and goes directly to the Master Eq/Master Compressor section.

As for the other question, you can configure a pedal so that its on/off status causes a gradual increase or decrease of the sound volume.

You might also want to check these threads:

PX-5S in Canada

Volume pedal

What exactly is audio-in for?