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#378948 - 12/21/13 07:08 AM OT: How Musicians are Treated
Bill Lewis Offline
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I just read a post over at the Keyboard Corner forum ( I got thrown off there after my first post- long story-but I can still read the topics ) I know we can all relate to this story.
A guy goes to do a trio gig at a multimillion dollar mansion and is treated like garbage. Told he had to arrive and hour early, would be given no food or drink, stuck under a staircase in this gigantic room, couldn't mingle with the guests and had to go to a back bedroom on his breaks. He needed the money but an interesting reply to the topic said theres an inverse relationship between the level of venue an how your treated. How true.
When I first started working at a local CC we were told we had to stay in a back foyer on our breaks and were offered nothing while there. Eventually we became the house band and friendly with a lot of the members. Had a run of 8 years and outlasted 5 managers.
Yesterday I did a double. 2 hr Senior Center and they partied their butts off. The director gave me a $50 tip-unheard of in this type of venue. I also was given lunch. Last night I did the local VFW. 4 hour bar type gig but there are a lot of dancers who meet there so its everything from bar music to Ballroom. Drinks are free and the guy in kitchen even came out to make sure I got something to eat.
I think people who are down to earth and work for a living are more hospitable. My other conclusion is about the really well off. Old money is very gracious and generous. Sounds like Capt. Russ knows about this. New money, which is what this guys gig sounded like, are pretentious. I also experienced this in my past bartending gig at a CC where your really got to know people.
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#378958 - 12/21/13 08:08 AM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Bill ... funny you mention this ... I have been playing gigs at a few senior independent living places for a number of years ... the folks that hire me are very friendly and hospitable and usually call me to see what dates I have open before setting the date for their parties ... however, they have never asked me if I wanted anything to eat or drink ... I bring my own bottles of water and seldom eat during a gig anymore - the days of having big prime rib dinners when we were the wedding house band at a catering hall are long gone for me - ... at one of my Christmas gigs this year, one of the residents actually came up to me and asked if he could get me something to eat ... I thought that was both very thoughtful and interesting ...

As for CCs, I am sure all of us who have played weddings etc. in some of these places have experienced times when the bridal couple paid for full dinners for the band and we were served ham and cheese sandwiches ...
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#378959 - 12/21/13 08:18 AM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
I'm sure most people have heard the story of the famous pianist (Horowitz, maybe -- Diki, a little help here smile ) who was booked to play a super high society gig. When asked his fee, he responded, $2000.00. Fine, said the hostess, but admonished him not to mingle with the guests. He responded, "In that case, the fee is $1000.00".

chas
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#378962 - 12/21/13 08:56 AM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By: Bill Lewis
I just read a post over at the Keyboard Corner forum ( I got thrown off there after my first post- long story-but I can still read the topics ) I know we can all relate to this story.
A guy goes to do a trio gig at a multimillion dollar mansion and is treated like garbage. Told he had to arrive and hour early, would be given no food or drink, stuck under a staircase in this gigantic room, couldn't mingle with the guests and had to go to a back bedroom on his breaks. He needed the money but an interesting reply to the topic said theres an inverse relationship between the level of venue an how your treated. How true.
When I first started working at a local CC we were told we had to stay in a back foyer on our breaks and were offered nothing while there. Eventually we became the house band and friendly with a lot of the members. Had a run of 8 years and outlasted 5 managers.
Yesterday I did a double. 2 hr Senior Center and they partied their butts off. The director gave me a $50 tip-unheard of in this type of venue. I also was given lunch. Last night I did the local VFW. 4 hour bar type gig but there are a lot of dancers who meet there so its everything from bar music to Ballroom. Drinks are free and the guy in kitchen even came out to make sure I got something to eat.
I think people who are down to earth and work for a living are more hospitable. My other conclusion is about the really well off. Old money is very gracious and generous. Sounds like Capt. Russ knows about this. New money, which is what this guys gig sounded like, are pretentious. I also experienced this in my past bartending gig at a CC where your really got to know people.


This is not about how rich people trait musicians..

But about how some rich people trait anyone else less fortunate.
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#378965 - 12/21/13 09:04 AM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
travlin'easy Offline
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Generally speaking, I've always been treated very, very well by ALL of my clients - rich and not so rich. The rich ones just own bigger boats than I have. But I get to be the captain, both when I'm at the helm on the boat, and when sitting behind the keyboard and singing. wink

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#378977 - 12/21/13 09:53 AM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Can't say I've ever been treated poorly at a private event. It's like you're a guest that happens to play and sing.
I think people in the South are different though. Yankees are mean by nature.
Now, that oughta start some #$%^@! smile
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#378994 - 12/21/13 12:30 PM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: DonM]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Originally Posted By: DonM
Can't say I've ever been treated poorly at a private event. It's like you're a guest that happens to play and sing.
I think people in the South are different though. Yankees are mean by nature.
Now, that oughta start some #$%^@! smile


Yeah we are... so what you gonna do about it ?!?!? duel


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Edited by tony mads usa (12/21/13 12:30 PM)
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#378996 - 12/21/13 12:33 PM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Soo .... a fabulous musician dies and goes to heaven. Greeted by St Pete at the gates, he explains that he brought joy to thousands of listeners during his time on earth, so St Peter invites him through the pearly gates. As the musician enters, St Peter says - "we're glad to have you here, now can you bring that crap in through the kitchen?"
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#379000 - 12/21/13 12:47 PM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Uncle Dave]
Rfinnshw Offline
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Registered: 03/06/08
Posts: 146
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Uncle Dave,

I loved the chuckle you shared :-)

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#379005 - 12/21/13 01:18 PM Re: OT: How Musicians are Treated [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
It will be harder for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God than a Camel to pass through the eye of a needle. This includes me, and I ain't even rich!
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