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#381167 - 01/11/14 10:43 AM Something for a rainy day...
travlin'easy Offline
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It has been raining here for three days, which to me is depressing to say the least. It's too early for a Margaretta (Kickapoo Joy Juice), so I sat down at the S-950 and recorded one of my favorite songs from an old John Wayne movie.

True Grit

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#381171 - 01/11/14 12:00 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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I didn't know this song, but I liked your rendition: very soothing in your typical way, which is whispering more than shouting.
Now, for a bit of friendly and (hopefully) constructive criticism... personally I would mute the string pad in the background, because the song really doesn't need it. Instead, I would try to rise the level of the acoustic guitar and of the drums and see if the end result sounds more authentic (like the real thing) and less "arranger-ish" (read canned).
In the mind of the style programmer that string pad should provide a counterpoint to your melody, following your chord changes in a clever way... but in the reality it fails to do so and the end result is that, instead of being an embellishment of the song, it becomes a burden.
This criticism applies not only to Yamaha but to all the arrangers: whenever a style has a track with a string or a pad sound I either try to play different chord inversions and see if the end result becomes better, or just mute that track and try to compensate rising the volume of other tracks, or maybe playing (or overdubbing later if it's a recording) a string countermelody with my right hand.
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#381172 - 01/11/14 12:21 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Thanks Andrea- I'll give it a try later today.

Gary
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#381174 - 01/11/14 12:39 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary, please post the result because I am really curious to hear it.
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#381175 - 01/11/14 12:42 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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No problem, Adrian.

Gary cool
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#381176 - 01/11/14 12:46 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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nice Job Gary sound real Nice. Ron
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#381180 - 01/11/14 01:04 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Great job, but I had heard the same thing regarding the strings, before I read Dreamer's post.
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#381183 - 01/11/14 01:36 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Here it is with the changes requested - thanks guys - you're the best critics ever! smile

True Grit2

Thanks again,

Gary cool
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#381194 - 01/11/14 02:35 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary,

I just listened to the two versions (the new one first and then the old one) and the new one definitely sounds better! clap
There is, however, something strange with the chords: I don't know the songs so cannot tell for sure, but even compared with the old version some of them seem to be missing... confused1
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#381208 - 01/11/14 03:41 PM Re: Something for a rainy day... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Anrea, Here is the song as I have it on my PC. Unfortunately, the spacing for positioning the chords correctly over the lyrics doesn't match the actual spacing on the document in MS Word.

True Grit T=96 (F)
(Irene's Latin Styles--Balada--C) First intro

FM7 Gm7-C7
ONE DAY, LITTLE GIRL,
FM7/6
THE SADNESS WILL LEAVE YOUR FACE
Gm7-C7
AS SOON AS WE'VE WON
FM7/6
YOUR FIGHT TO GET JUSTICE DONE.
Gm7-C7
SOME DAYS, LITTLE GIRL,
FM7/6
YOU'LL WONDER WHAT LIFE'S ABOUT,
Gm7-C7 FM7/6
BUT OTHERS HAVE KNOWN
FM7/6
FEW BATTLES ARE WON ALONE.
Bb
SO YOU'LL LOOK AROUND TO FIND,------ SOMEONE WHO'S KIND,
Eb
SOMEONE WHO IS FEARLESS LIKE YOU.

THE PAIN OF IT, -----WILL EASE A BIT
Gm7-C7
WHEN YOU FIND A MAN WITH TRUE GRIT.

Gm7-C7
ONE DAY YOU WILL RISE
FM7/6
AND YOU WON'T BELIEVE YOUR EYES.
Gm7-C7
YOU'LL WAKE UP AND SEE
FM7/6
A WORLD THAT IS FINE AND FREE.
Eb F
THOUGH SUMMER SEEMS, FAR AWAY,
Eb F
YOU WILL FIND THE SUN, ONE DAY.


Edited by travlin'easy (01/11/14 03:42 PM)
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