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#381593 - 01/16/14 04:16 PM KORG Songbook editor
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Does it work with the Pa600 & Pa900 ?
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#381628 - 01/17/14 12:56 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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Yes, the latest version from Korg.

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#381641 - 01/17/14 07:49 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: Saswick]
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Colin, have you personally validated that? Tony, Bill and I have all had problems. Korg reported back to me that there was no date yet for inclusion of the Pa900.
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#381642 - 01/17/14 08:47 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: PraiseTheLord]
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Hi Guy's

Worked for me on the Pa600, maybe the Pa900 is different.

Col


Edited by Saswick (01/17/14 08:48 AM)

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#381644 - 01/17/14 08:56 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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Yamaha needs to adapt the songbook feature on its arrangers and do away with their MFD !!

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#381645 - 01/17/14 09:01 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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Donny, if they adapted the songbook feature, they could do away with registrations. However, I don't think you're gonna see this happen anytime in the near future.

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#381646 - 01/17/14 09:04 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Donny, if they adapted the songbook feature, they could do away with registrations. However, I don't think you're gonna see this happen anytime in the near future.

Gary cool


your prob right Gary......but at least they can update it to include transpose and MAKE IT A TILT SCREEN how much more can that cost????????? yamaha are you reading this? TILT DISPLAY on all arrangers !!

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#381656 - 01/17/14 09:47 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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My best advice, send Yamaha a letter and tell them what YOU want. Ya never know!

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#381657 - 01/17/14 09:50 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
My best advice, send Yamaha a letter and tell them what YOU want. Ya never know!

Gary cool


Yea I'm sure they will listen .. rolleyes

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#381659 - 01/17/14 09:57 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: Saswick]
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Originally Posted By: Saswick
Hi Guy's
Worked for me on the Pa600, maybe the Pa900 is different.
Col


Col ... yes, it must be, but I am not sure why it should be - grant you I know NOTHING about file layout or size in ANY KB - but as Graham said, we've all had problems ... in my case 'Songbook Editor' recognized all the factory songbook lists, but neither of the two I created as a test ... and all I did was use factory styles I renamed and even a couple of 'song styles' direct from the factory songbook ...
What I don't understand is why the Pa900 on-line user manual states:
Hint:
Use the SongBook Editor software (freely available from our
web site) to edit your SongBook on a PC.

and yet Graham gets told by KORG that it's not available for the Pa900

My problem is that when I created my custom styles and song lists on the Pa600, I did so on an 'as needed' basis, without any 'forward' planning ... Now, before switching from the Pa600 to the Pa900, I thought it would be a good idea to re-arrange my song lists into more 'logical' groups, which I did on the pa600 ... of course I did not take into consideration that the songbook doesn't hold data, but only points to the location the data is to be found ... after loading the Pa600 data into the Pa900, imagine my surprise when I went to call up a 'song' and the Pa900 couldn't find it - because it was no longer in its previous location ... since I changed that location, the data could not be found ...
As I understand it, this can be more easily fixed through the 'Songbook Editor' software IF it worked for the Pa900 ... frown
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#381667 - 01/17/14 10:17 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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Hi Tony

I would save the Pa900 songbook to your PC and then try to load it into the editor I can't really see that the Pa900 should be different to the Pa600. I've sold my Pa600 so I can't test anything for you, sorry.

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#381671 - 01/17/14 10:31 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: Saswick]
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Originally Posted By: Saswick
Hi Tony
I would save the Pa900 songbook to your PC and then try to load it into the editor I can't really see that the Pa900 should be different to the Pa600. I've sold my Pa600 so I can't test anything for you, sorry.
Col


... thanks, Col, but that is exactly what I did ... it just did not recognize anything but the factory songbooks ... frown
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#381672 - 01/17/14 10:43 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By: tony mads usa

... thanks, Col, but that is exactly what I did ... it just did not recognize anything but the factory songbooks ... frown


It is very easy to build a personal songbook fast:

1) Select the style you want to use. Set up the four STS's if you can't use the default ones. Do any necessary modifications to tempo, transpose, volume, eq, balance, effects etc just as you would be doing it live.

2) Go to Book Edit Page 1. Fill out the fields (Genre, Artist, Key etc.) Make sure that you check marks in the following boxes:
Write Current Resource
Write STS
All Current Style STS

3) If necessary make further changes on Book Edit Page 2. Give the song an unique "Song Selection Number" (301, 302, 303,...).

4) Press Write

Do 1) to 4) for a number of styles. Now you can put these styles into a custom song book that only shows your own styles:

5) Make sure that "Enable Book Edit" is activated from the menu in the upper right corner.

6) Go to List Edit and press New List.

7) Go to the main Book page and press Add To List for you own entries.

8) Finally go back to the List Edit page and save the list.

You can choose which list that is shown on the Custom List page. You can continue adding more entries to your custom list by repeating 1-8 above, just do the following instead of 6)

6) Select your own list on the Custom list page.

This might seem complicated at first but is actually quite logical when you have done it a few times. And the custom list feature also allow you to have the same song in several lists, i.e. Sleigh Ride could be both in "Donny's Songs" and in "Christmas Songs".

Unfortunately I have no experience with the vocalizer, since I use the audio inputs for my GEM RP-X sound module - soon to be replaced with a SonicCell smile

Make sure that you check out page 297 in the manual. It contains a lot of shortcuts that will really help you in a live setting.

It is also important that you understand how "locks" works to get transpose etc. to work like you want it. Go to Global/General Controls/Locks. If an item is locked it will not change when you select a new songbook entry, style or performance. It will always retain the value of performance 1 (Grand Piano eXp). If you want another locked value just modify performance 1 and overwrite it. If you don't want the value to be locked you should open the lock in Global/General Controls/Locks and then do a Write Globals from the menu in the upper right corner.


Tony if not you might have to REDO the whole songbook over again... mad


Edited by Dnj (01/17/14 10:45 AM)

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#381675 - 01/17/14 11:06 AM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: Dnj]
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Donny ... maybe I am missing something, but I do not see how your instructions - which I are the steps I used to create my Pa600 songbook - differs from doing my custom songbook over ... confused1

... and as for it being 'FAST' (???) ... I think we both know how many hours we spent getting the Pa600 gig ready ...

I could easily just load the Pa600 data into the Pa900 and use it 'as is', but as I said I would like to have my customized styles in more 'logical' order ...

BTW ... over the past year -through trial and error - I have gotten to know the KORG OS fairly well, so , yes there are those 'locks' that one has to be aware of, and even more now that the VH comes in to play ...



Edited by tony mads usa (01/17/14 11:08 AM)
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#381692 - 01/17/14 12:58 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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... and the greatest of these is . .. Number 8. If you forget that step you haven't done anything!
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#381696 - 01/17/14 01:12 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: DonM]
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... been there, done that ...
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#381704 - 01/17/14 02:13 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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If it needs to be done every time, why isn't that step automated?
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#381724 - 01/17/14 03:17 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: Diki]
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... it's automated ... you just have to hit "WRITE" ... wink
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#381731 - 01/17/14 03:57 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: tony mads usa]
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And then "Are You Sure?" smile
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#381734 - 01/17/14 04:08 PM Re: KORG Songbook editor [Re: DonM]
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... yes, they always ask that ...
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