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#381971 - 01/19/14 03:43 PM
Re: Todays Maiden Voyage with Mackie SRM 150
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So do you believe the technical specifications in this case? The Mackie SRM150 is supposed to have 150 W, I suppose RMS, anything else ("PMPO") would be idiotic as a specification. If it does have 150W RMS, how could it be no stronger than the on-board speakers of the S950, which are rated 2 x 15 Watt? Maybe it has less bass, ok.
All these magical wattage output numbers etc, are mostly BS, manufacturers use as bait to make people buy,....I instead only use my ears when I buy speaker gear,  .....if it sounds good to me and fits MY needs I buy it,.......down the road if it don't,....it's gone in a minute no big deal it's only gear.
Edited by Dnj (01/19/14 03:43 PM)
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#382038 - 01/20/14 08:46 AM
Re: Todays Maiden Voyage with Mackie SRM 150
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Edited by Dnj (01/20/14 08:50 AM)
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#382049 - 01/20/14 09:07 AM
Re: Todays Maiden Voyage with Mackie SRM 150
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OTOH, few of us crank our gear up to the maximum, and really listen to how it sounds. It can get painful, and few of us have the ears to really test how distorted it's getting. The SRM's may 'peak' at 150W, but even according to their spec sheet http://www.mackie.com/products/srm150/pdf/SRM150_SS.pdf they are 100W sustained power. But the really telling specs are, it's 10db down at 60Hz, 3db down at 100Hz. And there's a high frequency rolloff, too. Like most hotspots, it's DESIGNED to emphasize the vocal range of frequencies, to help you hear your voice clearly on stage in a band. It's not designed to be a flat speaker system for full range sources. At what it is designed for, it's a great product (I have a pair!). And, TBH, compared to the built in speakers of most arrangers, it is quite comparable, except for maximum volume. But that's more an indictment of the built in speakers, than a ringing endorsement of the SRM150's! I have yet to hear ANY built-in speakers that were even CLOSE to flat, they ALL emphasize mid-range frequencies... This is why you'll find the mastering EQ's and compressors in arrangers are set up to CUT mids, and boost bass and treble. Take all that stuff off, you quickly hear what they actually sound like! Thing is, all that EQ quickly chews up your headroom, and things start to get ugly as you bump against the power amp ceiling and the design of the cabinets. There's a REASON studio monitors are not tiny flat little 4" speakers! And there's a reason PA speakers aren't tiny little flat 4" speakers! And, if you have the ears to hear, play your arranger through a full range stereo system at home, as loud as you can stand it, then play it AT THE SAME VOLUME through the built-ins, it's going to get ugly! Not just the bass, but the top end gets shrill, mids get distorted, it basically just craps out. But what do you expect from 10-30W? LOL
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#382052 - 01/20/14 09:19 AM
Re: Todays Maiden Voyage with Mackie SRM 150
[Re: Diki]
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OTOH, few of us crank our gear up to the maximum, and really listen to how it sounds. It can get painful, and few of us have the ears to really test how distorted it's getting. The SRM's may 'peak' at 150W, but even according to their spec sheet http://www.mackie.com/products/srm150/pdf/SRM150_SS.pdf they are 100W sustained power. But the really telling specs are, it's 10db down at 60Hz, 3db down at 100Hz. And there's a high frequency rolloff, too. Like most hotspots, it's DESIGNED to emphasize the vocal range of frequencies, to help you hear your voice clearly on stage in a band. It's not designed to be a flat speaker system for full range sources. At what it is designed for, it's a great product (I have a pair!). And, TBH, compared to the built in speakers of most arrangers, it is quite comparable, except for maximum volume. But that's more an indictment of the built in speakers, than a ringing endorsement of the SRM150's! I have yet to hear ANY built-in speakers that were even CLOSE to flat, they ALL emphasize mid-range frequencies... This is why you'll find the mastering EQ's and compressors in arrangers are set up to CUT mids, and boost bass and treble. Take all that stuff off, you quickly hear what they actually sound like! Thing is, all that EQ quickly chews up your headroom, and things start to get ugly as you bump against the power amp ceiling and the design of the cabinets. There's a REASON studio monitors are not tiny flat little 4" speakers! And there's a reason PA speakers aren't tiny little flat 4" speakers! And, if you have the ears to hear, play your arranger through a full range stereo system at home, as loud as you can stand it, then play it AT THE SAME VOLUME through the built-ins, it's going to get ugly! Not just the bass, but the top end gets shrill, mids get distorted, it basically just craps out. But what do you expect from 10-30W? LOL 10-15pp....low volume....= SRM 150 success!
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