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#383181 - 01/31/14 07:19 AM
Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
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#383188 - 01/31/14 09:01 AM
Re: Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
[Re: Dnj]
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Nicely played, although I do agree with Chas on the lack of a volume pedal. This tune could have been much more dynamic. Even adding, or having, touch sensitivity on organ sounds (not natural, by the way) will not get you there.
I'm almost certain the BK-9 (the organ sound and style are great, by the way) can have the volume pedal assigned to affect only right hand sounds.
I am continually surprised at how few arranger players use a volume pedal. Although not needed much on non-sustaining, short decay, velocity controlled sounds like piano and electric piano and some guitars, for other types like Saxes, Horns, Strings, Synths...in fact, for nearly all other sounds other than those first stated, a volume pedal works absolute wonders.
If you play behind your own or another's vocals, having it assigned to RH only allows far more freedom when adding phrases and sustaining sounds underneath, and a doddle to instantly jump into a lead or solo part.
Arrangers are basically single manual organs with a key split giving the player nearly the same advantage of a second manual. Organs all use expression (volume) pedals.
I use one for all my playing, with the exception of maybe some recordings.
The guy in the demo above would really benefit from having one.
Ian
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#383213 - 01/31/14 11:45 AM
Re: Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
[Re: captain Russ]
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[quote=captain Russ]Pretty good (nice technique), but really "flat" and "clean".
Just did the tune last night on my B-3 at Jazz night at the Club.
All the real key clicks and leslie sounds are problems when you record, but GREAT when you're playing live.
If you don't miss it, try playing one for a few tunes.
There's STILL nothing like it!
Oh I miss it big time. B3/Rhoades/ Synth and kicking the bass on the modified pedals I had. Great times and really playing hard till you broke a sweat. Me and the Drummer were tighter than a Crab's A**. Wish I could do it again. Great that you still have the opprotunity, keep going.
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#383215 - 01/31/14 11:55 AM
Re: Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
[Re: Dnj]
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I used to say, "You don't play a Hammond B-3...you ride it!"
Certainly nothing feels like sitting in front of that solid console and enjoying the response of that terrific keyboard and the 4 sets of drawbars...not to mention the glorious sound being tossed around by, in my case, two Leslie 147RV's.
"Close enough" are operative words for most of us these days not wanting to lug around over 400 lbs of B-3 and a Leslie cabinet.
Russ, as Bill says above, it is good you still have the opportunity (and the good fortune) of playing the "real deal".
Glad to hear your hand injury is healed and manageable.
Ian
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#383235 - 01/31/14 03:20 PM
Re: Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Donny, I'm a gear addict. I liquidated over 200 pieces I don't use (mostly guitars) and am in the process of doing the research to donate the proceeds. It's a little tricky. All instruments have been depreciated, so I owe capital gains tax unless I can work up a court approved dispersal of the instruments or proceeds of a sale.
Actually, I want to support the New Orleans Habitat project Chas is tied into, and the instruments that will go to that effort are to be sold at auction this month (Feb) and held in trust until the plan is approved.
But, old habits die hard, and I've between buying at least 2 instruments a month since the liquidation. I went from 312 stringed instruments to 94;now I'm back up to 122.
Funny thing; I haven't missed a single one of the 219 that I liquidated.
But thought I HAD TO HAVE the ones I recently purchased.
Oh well. I am old and silly and can do whatever I want! (my kids moan and groan every time I come home with a case, and the two players want me to "consult" with them before buying anything. RIGHT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN!)
Keyboards and amps...over 100 pieces. But that's a different story.
Be well,
Russ (junkyard) Lay
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#383254 - 01/31/14 04:21 PM
Re: Roland BK-9. The Cat: Jimmy Smith.
[Re: Dnj]
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Loc: NW Florida
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Might as well use that gear lust to justify a BK-9, Russ...
I know the forum is only just waking up to this gem, but I've been in love with it since it came through the door. Wicked B3 (and yes, nobody should be ALLOWED to play a B3 sound without a swell pedal... it should be disconnected until you plug one in, LOL), able to go the gamut from clean (even too clean, like this) to wound up dirty contacts and all.
Yes, just like the Nord's and other top B3 sims, you get adjustment of the key click volume, drawbar crosstalk, and several different amp sims, so you can go from polite church B3 into a PR cab, to a jazz B3 through a 145, to a bored-out rocker running through a Marshall before the 147's!
In something weighing 20lbs..!
I am in love with it! Mind you, just like any real love, there are things that drive you crazy... But that's love for you!
BTW, they fixed one of my pet peeves in the G70, the reverb send was PRE-Leslie, not post. Now you can get a nice hall or room around the Leslie, and go for that big room 'Whiter Shade' sound, or a smaller room for jazz. This demo, on the whole, could have done with a bit more reverb on the Leslie, to match the drums, but still a good one, nonetheless...
And I am ecstatic to hear of Russ's recovery. That must be such a relief. Treat yourself to the best live sounding arranger (and by FAR the best Hammond sim in an arranger) out there as a reward!
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