What puzzles me is why you feel you have to ... you know it won't have any constructive result. Just let it pass and don't provoke yet another response. Everyone can have their own viewpoint. You know only negativity will result from challenging an opposing view to your own with this sort of subject matter ... SO DON'T !!!! unless you want to provoke an argument. Simply ignore it let people have their say and it will pass on. I certainly don't want to read an endless back and forth. That is when I will lock or remove the thread.

On the other hand I also don't understand why people feel the need to have to disrupt a thread that is obviously not pertaining to what they do or do not believe. I guess I don't understand how people on both sides can be so egocentric. Drop it please or I will start getting annoyed ... and believe me I WILL get my way. Whatever it takes.

While I haven't banned sensitive issues involving religion or politics from forums other than The Bar I could if need be.

I grew up in a Christian household and I have relatives that are/were men of the cloth. My uncle in Houston, TX was pastor of one of the largest churches in North America. Some of my relatives on my mom's side are talented musicians and singers and one of my uncle's in particular used to lead the music ministry at his church which was in addition to his regular job as an insurance adjuster. That uncle, whose name is Bill, can pick up practically any instrument and play it with precision and skill and though that is hard to believe it is nevertheless accurate and I am just as flabbergasted as anyone else on how he does it.

They say that a person's musical ability can in some cases be inherited and that may be true at least in my case. I started playing guitar at an early age (11 or so) although I didn't pursue it on an advanced level or professionally but I did belong to a band growing up. As far a church goes I was a second tenor in several choirs throughout the years although I don't belong to one currently. I have never taken professional voice lessons but I was vocally trained in the choirs I attended. I have always loved music and I like just about every genre with a good beat but my favorites are Gospel, Jazz and contemporary Christian which I believe produces some of the best music around.

I was in my forties when I decided to take up the piano keyboard. I always wanted to play the piano and the arranger keyboard was my ticket into the world of piano music. It's never too late to pursue your dream and I'm really glad I had the opportunity to branch out musically. Guitar sounds on the higher-end arrangers are getting better as time goes by and perhaps the new Pa4x will give the Yammie Tyros5 a run for its money. My Tyros 3 that I acquired this past summer has some very good guitar sounds but the Tyros5 has raised the bar up a notch and so Korg has a tall order to fill if it wants to gain market share in the high-end arranger segment which Yamaha currently dominates. But I digress.

I also belonged to a a couple music ministry bands which allowed me to advance my playing skills but over the last few years I've been busy with other endeavors and so I haven't been able to play my keyboards as much as I had previously. I am a little rusty as they say since I was without an arranger for several years before getting the Tyros 3. My Fantom G7 has 76 keys but the adjustment to playing on 61 keys again was basically seamless. The situation now is finding the spare time to play in the manner I would like to in order to become sufficiently proficient with my recently acquired Tyros 3. If the Tyros 6 is a revolutionary step forward (in other words, the bees knees as far as cutting edge features go) I will probably trade up to the Tyros 6 if it meets my meticulous standards. I don't mind paying $6,000 if a keyboard is worth the price of admission which includes all the bells and whistles. The Tyros 5 lacks certain features i.e. no USB 3.1, no SSD drive, no real Sampler, limited system memory, no touchscreen, sub-par vocal harmony, cheesy B3 organs, not to mention quality control issues along with its astronomical price tag to boot. Again, I don't mind the price of admission if the keyboard in question meets all the criteria of a truly high-end product. If the Tyros 6 is head and shoulders above and beyond the competition I will be the first in line to get one. Time will tell.

All the best, Mike

Amazing, so many people telling others what they know very little about.

There is not a one-of-us that really knows. I baptize as a Christian and have had many ops and downs. Right now my relationship with God is the strongest it’s ever been.

Let me share;
I love everyone out there no matter what their beliefs might be. I believe that one of the gifts I have received is the freedom of choice. To attack another person’s beliefs (what they has chosen to believe in) is in conflict with my belief; it goes against the freedom of choice. I feel that whatever belief/opinions are giving here is a gift, I want to learn about what others believe in – it gets me out of my small world. Is what people say effect my beliefs? NO WAY! In my opinion my judgment about others is not healthy; it makes life difficult for everyone. It starts wars!

I respect all opinions knowing that they are only opinions and not necessarily facts. Keep writing what your heart tells you, this is great. From the writings on this post I have learned more about them, and that's a positive.
Getting angry is a no, no. Getting angry about what? -- That my beliefs are true and everyone else is wrong. ?????

Have a great Christmas and a healthy New Year.

John C.

Well said John

The crazy thing is this post was specifically aimed at "Christian musicians " . And specifically how their Christian beliefs influence their music .

Even as I am writing , I know this should not be necessary to write .

As much as I respect and genuinely love other musicians, whatever their beliefs or non belief , I don't understand why non Christians musicians feel they have anything to contribute of any relevance to this specific post . That's not saying they have no right to contribute if they want to . It's a public forum .

But what relevance can their contribution possibly have to the subject matter ?

This post went south very early ( as most here knew it would ) not because of the subject matter but because of the unnecessary irrelevant posts . Thanks to Nigel's intervention it was saved .

This post is not about stating your faith or about what you believe . The description in the post title settles all that . What would be really helpful is just some more relevant contribution on the subject matter from those folks who fit the description of the subject matter .

That's not too much to ask really .

Yes this post started Christian musician, but what might be considered the irrelevant part has its value. Why? Because for the last 12 years Synthzone has been a place where I learned a lot about music and keyboards – and equally important is that I found posts that brought the personalities which have turned into great friendships. I can leave my house and go to at least a dozen homes where I am welcome by musicians who post here; and not all are here in Florida.

I miss some of the musicians who posted who are no longer here. They did not leave because they shared their music/keyboard knowledge, they left because personality clashing. How sad!

Donny, Don, Bernie, Ivn, Don M, Gary to mention a few that have helped me spend my music time. Let me not forget NIGEL and MARK.

Every time a new post came I hated Donny’s reply, he came from left field. Now I look forward to Donny post, he’s like a brat, (haha) I like him.

Spalding I find your post also has value keep posting. I have not met a man that I could learn from!

Enough--- All posts have value, thank you Nigel. After coming home from my last vacation the first thing I did was On Computer – On Synthzone. I would miss this place --- because there is no place like this place.

Peace to all, have one great holiday, John C.

Thanks for the complement, John.

Gary

Mark, you're as wrong about Chas as you can be.

Great player...great intellect...great friend, with many accomplishments. A true renaissance man.

Questioning the suitability of something here is only out of place unless when action is in conflict with your personal beliefs.

You seem like a fine fellow. Let's all just leave well enough alone.

Russ