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#401467 - 04/16/15 06:59 PM
Re: Trying to wake everyone up.
[Re: cgiles]
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Boo, your posts always amuse me. You're the only one that can call these three-chord monte's out without ending up on their uh, 'fecal roster' (aka sh** list). What's your secret?
chas If you figure it out, let me know man. I remember years ago so and so around Algiers playing guitar and singing for 30 years. I was playing in the French Quarters with a guy on Guitar, who could play any standard written. Tricky stuff like Moonlight In Vermont with the bridge changing key from Eb to G and not using the G to the D7 like many did, but using the Am7, D7b9, Gmaj7, Abdim so on and so forth. Here I am racking my brain to learn all of this stuff and eating it up and over in Algiers old so and so who had been playing for 30 years the same 30 songs and same 3 and 4 chord tunes with a cheater bar on the Guitar neck no less and I'm thinking why hasn't he lost his mind yet. It's just mind boggling to me. It is very, very, extremely shallow UNLESS YOU'RE MAKING $100,000 A YEAR. Ha ha. The 3 chord guys made a living here in the good old USA and Dexter Gordon had to go to Europe to make a living. Why are Europeans so much more sophisticated them Americans in the arts. Do we drink and smoke too much chit or what?
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#401483 - 04/17/15 09:33 AM
Re: Trying to wake everyone up.
[Re: brickboo]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Chas, are you trying to tell us that there are MORE than three chords? I heard rumors about a 4th chord years back, but figured it was just a rumor - nothing more. All the best, Gary
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#401489 - 04/17/15 11:20 AM
Re: Trying to wake everyone up.
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7306
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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It's ironic that Boo, the player of a monotonic instrument, is the one here who really gets the fact that learning structure and improvisation is all about "running the chords". You learn all the notes to a chord and then look at the possibilities when you add, say a line that's a fifth above the line. Then, choose compatible chords...say the first two to a tune you like, and explore variations and compatibilities between those two chords and the associated notes. Then, you look at inversions and other variations. As the commercial says, "the possibilities are ENDLESS!"
THEN, you're HOOKED! Anyone who says they get tired of rehearsing hasn't really "run the chords".
I was fascinated with three chords. Until I was 10. Then, I turned on the radio expecting to hear Bill Hailey (Rock around the Clock) and heard Johnny Mathis (of all people) singing "Chances Are". Well, I took out my little guitar and started hunting. (This is why i joking tell people Johnny got me into jazz).
I found the root, but in what I later learned as a maj7th form, plus all these other amazing sounds I could only wonder at.
Unless I had to play them for a living, (and, believe me, for years, I did), I was off three chords from then on; especially after I started to listen to Les Paul; then Billy Extine, followed by all the great big band guys and soloists...Sonny Rawlins, Dexter, Miles (much later) Art Blakley...Ole Diz (brought the entertainment factor to play)...Oscar...Goodman...."Train"...the list goes on...and on...and ON!
Props to Boo for recognizing the importance of chords and structure and for being the one who constantly reminds us that there is more to music that three chords and a beer.
There's champagne, brandy, women (watch out),refer (they say it makes your hair fall out), starvation, frustration and LOT'S MORE!
I'm personally gonna keep it up til I get it right.
Russ (chrome dome) Lay
Edited by captain Russ (04/17/15 11:27 AM)
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#401497 - 04/17/15 03:04 PM
Re: Trying to wake everyone up.
[Re: brickboo]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Good Lord, Russ. Now you're telling us there are minors, majors, 5th, 7ths, 9ths, 11ths - What's next? And, beer is very important to music. In fact, if it were not for beer, none of us would be here, America would not have been discovered because old Chris would have died of thirst while crossing the Atlantic, we would not have our modern assembly lines and automated bottling machines. Fortunately, beer led to mixed drinks, such as Margarettas, which I try to consume while attempting to learn all those other chords people keep talking about. Fortunately, I talk to Boo every week or two and believe it or not, we never discuss music. We talk about fishing in the mountains of Colorado V/S fishing in my part of the world, the weather where he lives compared to Maryland and the Florida Keys, lots of neat cars, brick laying, block laying and all the good things in life. Now, when I call, Boo's wife Penny usually answers the telephone, which is a good thing because Boo's hearing is shot to Hell, but he won't admit it - it's a guy thing! I would much rather talk with Penny because she's much better looking and far more intelligent than Boo. I try to help Boo with his antique computers and keyboards as much as possible, but those things are so old that my mind is to the point where I cannot remember all the technical stuff from that long ago. Of course, I guess it would help if I didn't mix up a Green Coconut Margaretta before making the calls. All the best, Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (04/17/15 03:05 PM) Edit Reason: spelling
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#401501 - 04/17/15 04:36 PM
Re: Trying to wake everyone up.
[Re: brickboo]
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
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Gary, believe it or not, I got into Penny's 1990 Kyocera flip phone and the volume was as low as can be. If you didn't want to talk to Penny, (she is better looking than me, especially to an old fart, worn out, heterosexual male species) You could call me direct on my Galaxy Note Smartphone and there would be no problem. Ha ha! There is exactly 5,457 different chords and that's not counting inversions and chords with a 13th. Now go have another Margarita. Haha!
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