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#409091 - 09/30/15 04:52 PM Getting into a new venue
Mockie Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 310
Loc: Dublin Ireland
Could I have the forums advice as to the most successful

procedures to follow when approaching a new venue for work.

I have used phone calls, not good, fobbed off, felt like a double

glazing salesman, emailing, same thing.

Any good suggestions would be appreciated. computer

Frank
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#409093 - 09/30/15 05:56 PM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: Mockie]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2450
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
Gary ?? Chime in.

He's handled the business in a more professional way than most musicians I've known and has give me some good tips.

AKA: Make a good CD with nice graphics. Postcards, and personel contact after a mailing are a few I think are noteworthy.

I'm just a lazy as the next gut and I think if we all spent as much time on business as we do playing our keyboards we'd be better off. I hate being a salesmen but in today's market its more necessary than ever.
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#409097 - 09/30/15 06:26 PM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: Bill Lewis]
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
I see you are from Ireland wink
That makes things just a little different.
Being from Germany originally, I know that the European Culture is quiet different from the American.
People do and expect things very differently than here.
I know, I go back once a year. wink
You might need to hook up with some local musicians and pick their brain. wink
I did that, when I got back into gigging in my home town here.
Got some really good feedback from local musicians.
Each region is a little different too...
Good Luck
Eric


Edited by Eric, B (09/30/15 06:27 PM)
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#409099 - 09/30/15 07:07 PM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: Mockie]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I agree, each region, even within the US, is a bit different. However, somethings are etched in stone. Being a full-time entertainer is a business, and in order to be successful, you must operate it as a any other sole proprietor business. For every hour you perform on stage, there is at least an equal amount of time that must be dedicated to running that business from your home office.

I've never performed in Ireland, but I have performed at many locations in the US, including the southeastern states, and Washington State. The very first thing I would do is to scout out the competition. Check out the other bands, pay close attention to the type of crowds they're playing to, take note of their song list and the audience reaction, and every other aspect. Some of these bands will draw crowds and put lots of folks on the dance floor, while others may not be as effective. I did this many years ago, and it was the best thing I did.

Next, forget blind calls and emails - it's like shooting a shotgun in the air and hoping one of the pellets will fall on the right person - It's not gonna happen.

Create Advertising Package

First, I sat down at the computer and using Print Shop, put together a very attractive series of advertising packages. They ranged from simple cards, to fliers, to full blown packages that cost about $4 to compile. The full-blown package used a dark-blue presentation folder (available at Staples) with a photo inserted in the cover. Inside, there was a letter of introduction with exerts from various satisfied clients, 4-page song list, a 6 to 8-song CD and a business card inserted in the card slot. This cost nearly $2 to mail, which puts the package cost at approximately $6.

Make Simple Card or Flier

A simple card, or one-page flier, again compiled and printed using Print Shop, is a lot less expensive, can be mailed in a 6 X 9 Calendar envelope and requires only a single first class postage stamp. They too are quite effective.

Contact the Right Person

The secret to success, though, is to get the information to the right person, otherwise it will end up in the trash-can along with the tons of junk mail they receive every day. This is done by calling each venue on your mailing list and obtaining the name of the activities director (AD), restaurant manager, bar manager, or owner. This was easy. I merely called the facility and said:

"Hi, this is Gary Diamond from Travlin' Easy Productions. We're updating our files on the various facilities in the Baltimore metropolitan area and just need to verify the information we have on file."

At this point I would provide them with the mailing address I have in my computer, then ask about the number of beds or residents, the number of seats in the restaurant or bar, and their name, and the correct spelling of the name of the person that does the hiring. Now, you have the information to get your advertising package to the right person. I usually updated the list every 6 to 12 months, just to keep it current.

Follow-up Your Mailing

The next part of the process is the follow-up to the mailing. After allowing about 5 to 7 days for the package to arrive, pick up the telephone and call the person you mailed the package to. Once you have him or her on the telephone, ask them if they received your package. If the answer was yes, tell them you are putting together your schedule for next month or next year, whatever the case may be, and you would like to meet with them to set up an entertainment schedule for their facility. Some, ironically, will actually offer to do it over the phone, while others will set up a meeting at the facility.

Become a 'Salesperson'

I prefer meeting them in person, which then allows me to take a close look at the facility as well. (For a variety of reasons, there are some locations where I just will not perform.) At this point, you must become a salesperson. And, as any successful salesperson will tell you, you must dress for the occasion. In most instances you should wear the same apparel you would normally wear if you were going for a job interview.

Put Together A 'Formal' Schedule

Sit down with the person that does the hiring, and with your scheduling calendar, put together a schedule that fits both your and their needs. Once the jobs have been scheduled, go back to your home office, sit down at the computer and compile a "Confirmation of Appearance" letter that lists all dates, locations and times of the upcoming performances. Again, Print Shop makes this an easy job that looks very professional and businesslike. Send two copies of the confirmation to the AD, along with a SASE, have them sign one of the letters and mail that copy back to you. In some instances, I actually use one of my contracts and list all the performance dates on one contract. It's a bit more formal, and it provides the client(s) with clear descriptions of the various exclusions within the contract.

Stay in Touch With Customers

Once the client has been booked, they are placed on another mailing list I have compiled. This is one that I use for sending wall calendars, pens, Christmas cards, and other forms of advertisement that keeps my name high on their list. They're purchased from National Pen Company and Vista Print, and over the years have proven very effective. Because my name is on their wall calendar, and the pen they use daily, I'm one of the first entertainers they call when it comes time for special events, parties that command a much higher fee. The calendars only cost me a little over $1 and about .25 cents for the fancy envelope. Most of the time I deliver the calendars in person, usually in late August or early September, and at the same time, book the upcoming year's entire schedule. The pens cost about .39 to .49 cents apiece and can be mailed out with the cards and packages. If you want a great calendar that can be mailed at a reasonable price, pocket planners sell for about .60 cents and can be mailed in a standard #10 envelope.

While everyone believes competition is high in their particular area, keep in mind that most of the individuals providing entertainment are not full time entertainers. Some can only work nights and weekends, which means there are huge numbers of locations where you can work weekdays. Provide them with a great show, act professional, schmooze with the patrons and residents, and your calendar will be so full you will have to book your own vacation two years in advance.

Hope this helps,
Gary
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#409126 - 10/01/15 10:23 AM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: travlin'easy]
Mockie Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 310
Loc: Dublin Ireland
Wow, very impressive Gary, I'll certainly take some stuff from your post.

Frank
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#409130 - 10/01/15 12:15 PM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: Mockie]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Glad I could help,

Gary cool
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#409133 - 10/01/15 01:09 PM Re: Getting into a new venue [Re: travlin'easy]
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Make that 2.
I am stealing some stuff from Gary too. grin
Thank you smile
Eric
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