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#410786 - 11/04/15 05:07 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: Mikem]
rosetree Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Mikem Here's an operatic pice, "Cavalleria Rusticana" played by two different people. The first one is done using the Roland Integra-7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cokZT5qOL1Q The second, using the Kurzweil PC3K: https://soundcloud.com/orlan-charles/mascagni-intermezzo-from Comments are welcome. I know Synth o'man , I'm in contact with him on Facebook. In this piece he has, for some reason, not used the newer SRX 04 except for one track. He didn't make use of any SN-A tones either. With the old, mostly heavily looped SRX 06 strings Roland cannot match Kurzweil. It strongly depends on the piece, too, here vibrato solo strings seem to be important, e.g. in a Beethoven symphony or many soundtracks the straight sections are more important. Edit: Just got to listen to the Kurzweil example. Surprised to say I don't like it better. The straight non-vibrato strings used sound synthetic in the high notes. I'm tempted to try the first bars with a strings mixture of my own... Edited by rosetree (11/04/15 05:38 AM)
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#410794 - 11/04/15 06:12 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
rosetree Unregistered	Actually, I don't think you can conclude very much from such comparisons. In fact, Roland wins this one sky-high IMO, which I didn't expect at all. But it's not because Rolands sounds are better in general, but just because of the individual choice the two users made among the range of sounds available. It could sound very different with the same instruments if other selections had been made. Probably not a real help as a purchase decision, I'm afraid. Edited by rosetree (11/04/15 06:37 AM)
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#410795 - 11/04/15 07:12 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: mirza]
Mikem Member Registered: 08/12/14 Posts: 917 Loc: Quebec, Canada	Originally Posted By: mirza What about Muse Receptor??? I had looked into that a few years ago, but decided I did not want to get into VSTs, for various reasons. Thanks for the suggestion, though. _________________________ Mike
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#410796 - 11/04/15 07:22 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
Mikem Member Registered: 08/12/14 Posts: 917 Loc: Quebec, Canada	Originally Posted By: rosetree Originally Posted By: Mikem Here's an operatic pice, "Cavalleria Rusticana" played by two different people. The first one is done using the Roland Integra-7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cokZT5qOL1Q The second, using the Kurzweil PC3K: https://soundcloud.com/orlan-charles/mascagni-intermezzo-from Comments are welcome. I know Synth o'man , I'm in contact with him on Facebook. In this piece he has, for some reason, not used the newer SRX 04 except for one track. He didn't make use of any SN-A tones either. With the old, mostly heavily looped SRX 06 strings Roland cannot match Kurzweil. It strongly depends on the piece, too, here vibrato solo strings seem to be important, e.g. in a Beethoven symphony or many soundtracks the straight sections are more important. Edit: Just got to listen to the Kurzweil example. Surprised to say I don't like it better. The straight non-vibrato strings used sound synthetic in the high notes. I'm tempted to try the first bars with a strings mixture of my own... I noticed that Synth o'man used more tracks than Orlan Charles' PC3K version. Of course, this type of comparison is not scientific. It's just to get an idea of how each sounds. It depends on the skill of the players, the kind of voices used, etc. I hope you do a recording yourself, using the voices you think are best. If you do, please post it here, or post a link to it. I'd love to hear what you can do with it! _________________________ Mike
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#410797 - 11/04/15 07:26 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
Mikem Member Registered: 08/12/14 Posts: 917 Loc: Quebec, Canada	Originally Posted By: rosetree Actually, I don't think you can conclude very much from such comparisons. In fact, Roland wins this one sky-high IMO, which I didn't expect at all. But it's not because Rolands sounds are better in general, but just because of the individual choice the two users made among the range of sounds available. It could sound very different with the same instruments if other selections had been made. Probably not a real help as a purchase decision, I'm afraid. I agree with your assessment. The Kurzweil version sounded more harsh. Good points. _________________________ Mike
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#410799 - 11/04/15 07:39 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
DAN.2000 Senior Member Registered: 08/09/01 Posts: 1134 Loc: FRANCE	You can get the original Proteus rom samples for 39$ https://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/e-mu-virtuoso _________________________ Regards, Dan https://www.varranger.com
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#410809 - 11/04/15 11:28 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: DAN.2000]
Bachus Senior Member Registered: 03/02/06 Posts: 7143	Originally Posted By: DAN.2000 You can get the original Proteus rom samples for 39$ https://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/e-mu-virtuoso Thanks Dan... nice site... and i can load soundfont format into the Kronos... and the price is just awesome.. Edited by Bachus (11/04/15 11:28 AM) _________________________ Yamaha Genos, Roland Jupiter 80, Ipad pro. http://keyszone.boards.net
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#410810 - 11/04/15 11:39 AM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
DAN.2000 Senior Member Registered: 08/09/01 Posts: 1134 Loc: FRANCE	Yes. sounds are a bit old school, but you get this american sound of the 90-2000 years vArranger can also load sf2 so it is nice _________________________ Regards, Dan https://www.varranger.com
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#410815 - 11/04/15 01:29 PM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
rosetree Unregistered	Just found out that via John Melas Waveform editor I seem to be able to load the Virtuoso waveforms into my MoXF flash, too!!
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#410822 - 11/04/15 02:39 PM Re: Hope for new orchestral sound modules? [Re: ]
rosetree Unregistered	Just a warning or question... I just purchased the Virtuoso sounds as Soundfont and imported it into the Melas waveform editor for Motif. I can audition all sounds in the editor, but strangely most of the waveforms are 'one shot' instead of loop, so when I play a trumpet or strings, the sound runs out after a second or so. I can change every single waveform to 'loop', but no matter how I set the loop start/end points, there are loud popping sounds each time the loop begins.
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