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#414752 - 01/17/16 07:31 AM Another new toy
Saswick Offline
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Hi Guys

Just ordered a new LD Systems Maui 5, should be here tomorrow or the day after, will report.

Col


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#414753 - 01/17/16 07:56 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
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WTG Col good luck .........Bose compact killer?...looks kool enjoy

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#414755 - 01/17/16 08:06 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Dnj]
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Fingers crossed Donny, it only weighs in at 10.8 Kgs so it won't break my back. 800w max, 200w RMS, 120 SPL, it should have plenty of power for my jobs.

Col




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#414756 - 01/17/16 08:28 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
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LD Maui

COl LD makes awesome gear..enjoy

keep us posted

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#414757 - 01/17/16 08:49 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
WTG Col good luck .........Bose compact killer?...looks kool enjoy

keys


Just imagine where the world of sound systems would be if Bose had not introduced vertical array systems to musicians. We would still be lugging around 100-pound speakers on refrigerator dollies and transporting our gear in full size vans. Additionally, it was Bose that introduced high-impact housings, replacing traditional composition board, and later dense plywood cases. It was Bose that introduced space-age speakers that were a fraction of the size, yet provided incredibly crisp, clear sounds that are superior to anything we worked with in the past. It was Bose that introduced pulse modulation into their sound systems that changed the way sounds disperse, a transition that swept away conventional sound system 45-degree coverage to a whopping 210 degree coverage, and with essentially no fall-off.

To me, it appears as other manufacturers are playing catchup and trying to imitate Bose by copying and introducing similar sound systems at a lower price. Bose Killers? No, Bose imitators.

Good Luck, Col,

Gary cool
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#414758 - 01/17/16 08:56 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Bose Killers? No, Bose imitators.



Could be both.....just saying.

smile

chas
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#414759 - 01/17/16 09:49 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: cgiles]
Saswick Offline
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Hi Chas

If it turns out to be as good as the Vocalist Live FX I'll be well pleased.

Col

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#414760 - 01/17/16 10:08 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
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smile

chas
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#414766 - 01/17/16 11:40 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
124 Offline
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Not sure what the rationale behind them was, but back in the 60's we had vertical line array speakers. I believe Fender produced them. In the UK we had a column of four 8" speakers on either side of the stage. These were made in England by the Selmer company who also made a range of amps - plus their famous saxes.

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#414767 - 01/17/16 11:50 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: 124]
Saswick Offline
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Hi 124

Myself and two mates worked in the 60's as a trio and we produced our own columns with four ten inch speakers each, as you say we didn't know anything about the technology but they seem to work very well. In fact one of my mates still has the speakers in the top of his garage. We used to power them with 150w "Geloso" amp.
hi-power stuff in those days.

Col

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#414768 - 01/17/16 12:10 PM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
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Also back in the early 1060s I worked for Executone Corporation of America. We installed vertical array systems in theaters and churches. the columns were arched and placed in each of the corners of the room at ceiling height, which was a dangerous job back then. No OSHA just climb up a 30-foot, wooden extension ladder and hang those speakers using concrete anchors made of lead. In the center of the ceiling we would place a monster 20-inch speaker aimed directly at the floor for those low frequency sounds. All the sound columns consisted of a half dozen 6-inch Jensen PM speakers.

The big difference today is that the speakers contained within the sound columns are tiny, often 1.5 to 2-inch speakers with diaphragms made of highly responsive, space age synthetics - not paper cones. They have a much wider frequency range and far less distortion than the paper cones of yesteryear. While there is some similarity in the sound columns insofar as overall distribution of sound, that's where it seems to end.

Graham Crosby designed speakers in the UK for many years, so maybe he can chime in here and provide more insight into this subject.

All the best,

Gary cool
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!

K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)

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#414801 - 01/18/16 09:05 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: Saswick]
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Originally Posted By: Saswick
Hi 124

Myself and two mates worked in the 60's as a trio and we produced our own columns with four ten inch speakers each, as you say we didn't know anything about the technology but they seem to work very well. In fact one of my mates still has the speakers in the top of his garage. We used to power them with 150w "Geloso" amp.
hi-power stuff in those days.

Col

LOL! Yeah, our first amp was a Vortexion we bought from the Army Surplus Shop for 15 quid. Not much more than a chassis covered by a vented tin shell and two D-handles. (They call that sort of thing 'retro' now, and charge a bundle rotfl ). Must've been all of 40 watts.

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#414859 - 01/19/16 02:15 AM Re: Another new toy [Re: travlin'easy]
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No-one is copying Bose. Vertical linear speaker arrays is not a patent owned by Bose. Many sounds systems use it. Go to any concert now and you will see it. Nowadays concert music sounds great wherever you are relative to the sound system like a Bose PAS system.




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