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#416350 - 02/09/16 01:06 PM
Re: Midnight in Moscow Dixie - Lukewarm about SN-A
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Very difficult song to play, at least for me, but you did a good job playing it. However, the style, while correct for the song, to me, sounded just awful. Now, don't get me wrong - YOU did a great job, but the style itself sounded way too busy, and overshadowed your talents. Gary
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#416355 - 02/09/16 01:46 PM
Re: Midnight in Moscow Dixie - Lukewarm about SN-A
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Very difficult song to play, at least for me, but you did a good job playing it. However, the style, while correct for the song, to me, sounded just awful. Now, don't get me wrong - YOU did a great job, but the style itself sounded way too busy, and overshadowed your talents. Gary Thanks for your opinion. But there is no "style" (the Integra doesn't have styles or any automatic playing), so your criticism concerns what I did myself: I did the whole thing from scratch (in 2 hours), there isn't even an automatic drum rhythm. I played everything you hear manually, every banjo strum, hi hat and snare hit, clarinet, trombone etc. So there's a problem about the density in my arrangement, and it's no wonder, I just took less than 2 hours for it playing drums, bass and banjo manually and making up all those improvisations of trumpet, trombone and clarinet. I guess I would have to thin out the arrangement especially with respect to the clarinet, it should only play short phrases whenever the trumpet has a break. I tried to to that, but it still got too dense, so the whole thing is a bit too busy at times. Additionally, as Donny says, banjo and also drums are too dominant. My main question however was about the sound of trumpet, trombone and clarinet. I'd like some more opinions about them. P.S.: I checked the original again. It does sound busy, too, but banjo is less dominant, and the bass is not a walking bass most of the time as I did, but a slow one playing dominant, fourth and fifth mostly. But I think I wasn't very far away from the original sound, given the little time I spent for it. Noting down all the impros of the original in written would take a whole day i guess
Edited by rosetree (02/09/16 03:32 PM)
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#416357 - 02/09/16 03:28 PM
Re: Midnight in Moscow Dixie - Lukewarm about SN-A
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they sounded great, but were overshadowed by the banjo, drums, etc... Gary
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#416366 - 02/09/16 04:57 PM
Re: Midnight in Moscow Dixie - Lukewarm about SN-A
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I liked it! I did not know the title, but I recognized the music instantly. From what I remember, it dates back a few decades. Maybe from the 1960s. Right?
Regarding the brass and woodwind sounds, when I tried a Roland Jupiter-80 in a store, I also thought the SN-A sounds were not too realistic. The vibrato sounded synthetic. Other SN-A sounds were good, though.
In your music above, it was less noticeable because there were several instruments playing at the same time.
I always look forward to new music from you. Thanks!
Thanks! Interesting you didn't notice the artificial vibrato so much here. I'm torn, there is something about the trumpet I like very much and something I like better about a few MoXF and Ketron trumpets. I just listened to it a couple of more times, but most of your notes are rather short, so it's hard to hear the vibrato. Add to that the fact that I'm 54 and loosing my hearing a little, and voila'!......Inability to distinguish sounds as good as I used to. Oh, and did I mention my eyes are getting worse, too? The vibrato I did hear of the trumpet and some other instument sounds seemed fine. On my Motif XF, I have a trumpet called "Trumpet Vibrato" which I really like. You must have the same on your MoXF. Maybe, you'd like using it more. The ensemble voices are lively, and they give the feeling of the original which I heard on YouTube.
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