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#418724 - 03/25/16 05:32 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: DonM]
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I mentioned in my previous thread that I was bringing a sub because I thought it sounded better with style play and SMFs. It has been said many times that a sub may not be needed except for 100 hz and below, and, if you have a bass player. Only a very small percentage of players use an arranger. This puts the bass squarely in our hands via styles and sequences.

I have had more experience than most on this forum using this great system, and, while extolling it's virtues, there are times when it may need a little bass boost. Use in the field and personal taste will tell you.

BTW Don is right about the Bose bass being more pronounced, but unless you have two like he has, it lacks the spatial effect of the SSV3.
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#418726 - 03/25/16 08:40 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: guitpic1]
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SS frequency range is down to 100 hz.
Bose Compact is down to 65 hz at -3 db, and 50 hz at -10 db. Considerably lower range, and it is quite audible to me.
In addition the SS is 40 pounds plus the sub if you add one, plus stands, reflectors, etc., that people are using to make it sound right. Compact is 24.5 pound plus 2.3 pounds for the extensions. That makes a difference to me.
Again, lots of people love the SS, but I don't believe it is optimal for a one-man-band, needing full coverage from bass to highs.
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#418731 - 03/25/16 09:28 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
SS frequency range is down to 100 hz.
Bose Compact is down to 65 hz at -3 db, and 50 hz at -10 db. Considerably lower range, and it is quite audible to me.
In addition the SS is 40 pounds plus the sub if you add one, plus stands, reflectors, etc., that people are using to make it sound right. Compact is 24.5 pound plus 2.3 pounds for the extensions. That makes a difference to me.
Again, lots of people love the SS, but I don't believe it is optimal for a one-man-band, needing full coverage from bass to highs.


all good points .....what concerned me is that there isn't many at all reviews or demos on you tube OTHER THEN MANUFACTURERS? why is that...where are all the people who supposidly have this amp and their pros & cons? confused1

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#418732 - 03/25/16 12:57 PM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: Dnj]
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Here is 153 pages of threads,of which, 95 % are good. The reason you don't hear more examples, IMO, is that the listener can not truly appreciate the effect through a recording.

There might be a few small negatives, but the sound is absolutely worth it IMO.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads...oar#Post2602284


Edited by Bernie9 (03/25/16 12:58 PM)
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#418734 - 03/25/16 02:22 PM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: guitpic1]
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Bernie I was talking about YouTube videos? Other than the manufacturer...

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#418742 - 03/25/16 04:59 PM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Bernie I was talking about YouTube videos? Other than the manufacturer...


I listened to every YouTube video I could find re: the SS3. I couldn't find anything special about the amp.

When I tried it at home, that's when I understood what all the fuss was about. Anyway you cut it, the amp produces a full, big (and yes stereo)sound.

If I was doing dances in a large hall as my regular gig, I would add a sub plus more PA probably. That said, if dances were my main venue, I wouldn't be using Compacts either. I would be using the larger L1's with a B4 bass unit.

About four times a year, I play bass guitar with a dance band. We tried the Compacts, they didn't cut it. The band went to a bigger Bose unit with dual B2 subs



Edited by guitpic1 (03/25/16 05:04 PM)
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#418743 - 03/25/16 05:14 PM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: guitpic1]
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One other thought.

When I do smaller nursing home/assisted living gigs, I'm hoping to use one amp. I tried one Bose Compact, running two outs on my Tyros into one in on the Bose. It was OK at best.

My hope was that I could use my SSV.3 as a single amp for these smaller gigs. I haven't done that yet, but comparing(using the Tyros) one single Bose to a single SSV.3(my larger den) the SSV.3 wins every time....again to my ears and in my den.

Time will tell.


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#418757 - 03/26/16 08:53 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: guitpic1]
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I would not use a single Bose Compact if I were using a stereo sound source, such as an arranger keyboard. It's not designed for that, and the arrangers are designed to be heard in stereo. Some do, but again, they are compromising their sound, in my opinion. (Sorry Gary). smile
The Compacts are also not designed to carry a full band. They Bose premise was for EACH player to have his own sound source.
It's important to optimize the sound system you use for the venue you are playing. If I ever play a really large venue again, I'll use two big Bose L1s and subs. Probably never will though. It's been seven years since I played something that large, a July 4 civic celebration at an open air park in Arkansas. Even though I sold both my big systems, neither is being used regularly and I can borrow them any time I need them. That was a stipulation of the sales.
If what you use is getting the job done, and it pleases you and your audience, by all means go for it! There are lots of great choices.
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#418759 - 03/26/16 09:49 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
I would not use a single Bose Compact if I were using a stereo sound source, such as an arranger keyboard. It's not designed for that, and the arrangers are designed to be heard in stereo. Some do, but again, they are compromising their sound, in my opinion. (Sorry Gary). smile
The Compacts are also not designed to carry a full band. They Bose premise was for EACH player to have his own sound source.
It's important to optimize the sound system you use for the venue you are playing. If I ever play a really large venue again, I'll use two big Bose L1s and subs. Probably never will though. It's been seven years since I played something that large, a July 4 civic celebration at an open air park in Arkansas. Even though I sold both my big systems, neither is being used regularly and I can borrow them any time I need them. That was a stipulation of the sales.
If what you use is getting the job done, and it pleases you and your audience, by all means go for it! There are lots of great choices.



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#418763 - 03/26/16 11:10 AM Re: SS V.3 on the way [Re: guitpic1]
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guitpic

You will find that the amp is very versatile and can handle most venues nicely. I have used all of my keyboards with the Bose Compact(1) and SSv3. The gigs were from small rooms and 30 people to large halls and 400 people.

The Bose sounds good, has good bass support, and carries a long way without dropping off. The SSv3 opens the various sound components and spreads them out in all direction. You have a summed mono vs stereo.
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