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#420130 - 04/20/16 02:02 PM Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
Originally Posted By: john smies

The streetprice of the SD7 here in Holland and Germany is approx.
2695 euros, ( if you are lucky you might get it at 2600). It does not need a genius to figure out that the SD40 will end up with a streetprice of approx. 2000 euros. Why ? Simply said, the SD40 is the SD7 in a box. It they were to retail it at say 1400 euros the sales of the SD7 would crumble and fall. By contrast they would sell many many modules, but mark my words " it ain't gonna happen "

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John


Maybe, maybe not, I'm not as sure as you about it.
The ratio 2000:2690 is not the ratio of the prices quoted on the Swiss dealer's page - but that's just an unreliable indicator.
But if you look at the Roland Integra, it has always been just under 1,500 euros, and according to your theory that would have made the Jupiter 80 completely obsolete, as, apart from the lower polyphony, it has all the Jupiter sounds and several thousands more.
Probably there are not that many people that easily switch to a module, with respect to the "all-in-one" aspect, handy operation etc. Many here in the forum don't want additional gear with cables etc. The SD40 won't have any sliders, for example, a feature missing compared to the MidjPro.
I think it's still possible the price could be considerably lower than 2,000 euros. I fear for 2,000 I'd rather keep my 1,295 euro BK-9 as a second keyboard.
BTW, Ketron should think about their price for the SD7: After 10 months of being on offer, there are zero reviews at Thomann. The SD7 is obviously doing even worse than the BK-9, which was definitely a busted flush for Roland.



Someone saying that the integra7 made the jupiter80 totally obsolete .... Totally missed the point of the Jupiter 80..... Jupiter 80 is all about livesets, which can see as hugely advanced 4 voice ensembles with for example the same technollogy as the tyros5 ensemble voices...

Actually as a performance synthesizer, it took till now for it even to get some competition(montage)

You cant compare jp80 to an i7 maybe some of the sounds are the same, but as performance instruments they are totally different...
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#420138 - 04/20/16 02:47 PM Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already [Re: Bachus]
rosetree
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Originally Posted By: Bachus

Someone saying that the integra7 made the jupiter80 totally obsolete .... Totally missed the point of the Jupiter 80..... Jupiter 80 is all about livesets, which can see as hugely advanced 4 voice ensembles with for example the same technollogy as the tyros5 ensemble voices...

Actually as a performance synthesizer, it took till now for it even to get some competition(montage)

You cant compare jp80 to an i7 maybe some of the sounds are the same, but as performance instruments they are totally different...


"Some of the sounds are the same" - I suggest you compare the data lists and look into the Jupiter 80 forum on Musikerboard, what Jupiter 80 owners have written about their thoughts of I7...
The Integra 7 has about 90% of the Jupiter 80 sounds - the only ones missing are SN-A sounds of an older generation, which are of a minor quality according to Jup80 owners. But IN TURN, the I7 has got many ADDITIONAL SN-A sounds, particularly in the SN-A expansions, which are all missing in the Jup80.
Not to mention the ENTIRE SRX library, of which there is NOTHING in the Jup80.
The SN-Synth section is identical in Jup80 and Integra.
So apart from the 256-voice polyphony of the Jup80, the Integra outclasses the Jup80 soundwise - and I've read about Jup80 owners scratching their head about spending so much more money, not knowing the Integra would be released.


Edited by rosetree (04/20/16 02:58 PM)

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