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#424522 - 08/09/16 12:13 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: Mark79100]
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"Please stay in The Bar" ...
But,
should'nt this tread/topic been posted in the Bar as well?

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#424529 - 08/09/16 03:51 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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From my book of wisdom:

We have been given the right to choose what we believe in. This belief is given to others as an opinion. The problem is that people believe their opinions/beliefs are the correct ones; and so we have arguments, anger, and wars.

If I respect another person’s opinion; and allow that opinion to be given without criticism, I have the same right to be respected myself. The way we handle this subject tells more about ourselves than the other person.

I am a counselor at my church and a Care Giver for my wife who has incurable cancer--- My wife and I attend a Cancer Support group of about 45 members. It is amazing how one’s outlook changes when reality comes. The room is filled with laughter, respect and caring for others.

I try my best to bring love and respect to whatever I am involved in, so if I have offended anyone on this forum with my opinion, I apologize.

John C.

And you are right – this belongs in the Bar.

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#424543 - 08/09/16 08:17 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: Mark79100]
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John, you're the best, my friend! Proud to know you, even though it's from a distance.
I don't visit the Bar because it angers me. Conservatives aren't going to change their minds and neither are Liberals so I don't try.
But don't try to take away my guns, just in case. No smiley face here.
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#424558 - 08/09/16 09:15 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
But don't try to take away my guns, just in case.


...and luckily, 'blah' hasn't tried to do that; just a bunch of fear-mongers trying to make you THINK that. However, is it just coincidence that in countries such as Australia (and a few others) where one cannot own a personal gun, the murder rate is a fraction of what it is here in the US.

There have been a few times in my life when I've felt threatened, and as I look back upon them, I am SO, SO thankful that I DIDN'T have a gun. The thought of taking someone's life in a momentary fit of anger (in a situation that I could have just walked away from) would haunt me the rest of my life. And in all these years, I've never needed a gun to protect my family (maybe I'm just lucky) except for the 10 years I spent in the military. I'm not a Super-patriot but I do feel one has a duty to defend one's country in times of war, but I feel equally strongly that WE shouldn't be the ones STARTING THE WARS. But that's just me. Your opinion may vary. Anyhoo, let's not go down this road as Mark didn't want this to turn into a POLITICAL discussion smile smile.

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#424562 - 08/09/16 09:38 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: Mark79100]
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Chas good words.
I remember hearing a noise in the bathroom in the middle of the night; I took my hunting knife and held it front of me as I walked towards the bedroom. I had four children and a lovely wife – she was 29 and I was 30. No one was going to hurt them.
As I approached the bathroom I could hear breathing. The closer I got to the bathroom the louder it got – it was coming from the center of the bathroom. I held my knife in position and put on the light. My precious tiny 6 year old daughter was staring at the knife. I could have hurt that precious child.

I never want to be put in a position to kill a human being; so I will not own a gun. Now that’s for John – anybody else can own as many guns as they wish, that’s alright for me.

John C.

PS, What if someone was attacking your wife, what would you do? I guess I would bite him or hit with my KN 7000; which I might add is dam heavy. (Nigel, does the last part make this post eligible for this forum? )

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#424563 - 08/09/16 09:54 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: Mark79100]
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Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the U.S. How's that working out? There are studies about the Australian scenario that say murder rate is up and others that it is down. In most countries where it has been implemented murder rates have sky rocketed. It's easy to find the reports.
I've never pulled my gun on anyone, except once (and that time it may have saved my life and that of my wife when we were accosted in Memphis). I didn't have to fire it on that occasion and I'm so glad of that. But I am highly trained in the use of it and in the safety aspects. Got my first one when I was 12 years old and already knew how to handle it from my dad. I still work part time for the Sheriff's office, patrolling a day or so each week. Have not had to use my gun there either, thank God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't have to thank Him, but you can thank the peace officers that are armed and who risk their lives every day to protect your families.
Mass murderers ONLY have struck in the U.S. where they know that guns can't be legally carried.
You know my position and it won't change, so I won't follow this thread any more. It is out of place anyway.
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#424564 - 08/09/16 10:02 AM Re: uh-uh-uh-uh-uh [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the U.S. How's that working out? There are studies about the Australian scenario that say murder rate is up and others that it is down. In most countries where it has been implemented murder rates have sky rocketed. It's easy to find the reports.
I've never pulled my gun on anyone, except once (and that time it may have saved my life and that of my wife when we were accosted in Memphis). I didn't have to fire it on that occasion and I'm so glad of that. But I am highly trained in the use of it and in the safety aspects. Got my first one when I was 12 years old and already knew how to handle it from my dad. I still work part time for the Sheriff's office, patrolling a day or so each week. Have not had to use my gun there either, thank God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't have to thank Him, but you can thank the peace officers that are armed and who risk their lives every day to protect your families.
Mass murderers ONLY have struck in the U.S. where they know that guns can't be legally carried.
You know my position and it won't change, so I won't follow this thread any more. It is out of place anyway.





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