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#430364 - 04/03/17 11:46 AM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: nightowl]
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Registered: 12/01/08
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Loc: South Africa
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Can't believe the following comes from me:
Based purely on the style demos above, talking about styles only, I feel like someone poured cold water over me. I do not understand why it took so long in the making as style wise it's not really so much more advanced from my aging Audya. Yes, sure a good musician will make it talk, but so can one do with my Audya exactly as is too.
I expected many, many more brand new audio guitar loops. I also expected many, many new human voice audio loops. Audio drums does not really impress me all that much over good midi drums, but other audio voices do. Maybe the "pads" will make up for all of this, I honestly don't know.
Not as itchy any more. Should the money come, fine. Should it not, I can still live with what I have.
Sorry if I sound a little negative, but when the Audya came out it was so much different that it was hard to comprehend. Guess I expected too much this time round. For the price of a small car, I just expected to be a little more "wowed".
Two, no make it three things "wowed" me: The country audio guitar loops, the acapella type style & the new blues guitar voice. There might be some other things onboard that I've not heard as yet and I surely hope so.
As for those who do not have the Audya, this will be a HUGE leap forward. Don't be put off by my comments above. Having had the best there is for so long changed my expectations ever so slightly.
Let me go play with Sokratis' new style - also I found some converted SD7 styles today. Hopefully it's different to my conversions as I did a lot of guesswork on those & they can be made to sound much better than is. Boy! The continued possibilities from my seven year old Audya is still hard to comprehend...
Henni
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#430368 - 04/03/17 01:27 PM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Can't believe the following comes from me:
Based purely on the style demos above, talking about styles only, I feel like someone poured cold water over me. I do not understand why it took so long in the making as style wise it's not really so much more advanced from my aging Audya. Yes, sure a good musician will make it talk, but so can one do with my Audya exactly as is too.
I expected many, many more brand new audio guitar loops. I also expected many, many new human voice audio loops. Audio drums does not really impress me all that much over good midi drums, but other audio voices do. Maybe the "pads" will make up for all of this, I honestly don't know.
Not as itchy any more. Should the money come, fine. Should it not, I can still live with what I have.
Sorry if I sound a little negative, but when the Audya came out it was so much different that it was hard to comprehend. Guess I expected too much this time round. For the price of a small car, I just expected to be a little more "wowed".
Two, no make it three things "wowed" me: The country audio guitar loops, the acapella type style & the new blues guitar voice. There might be some other things onboard that I've not heard as yet and I surely hope so.
As for those who do not have the Audya, this will be a HUGE leap forward. Don't be put off by my comments above. Having had the best there is for so long changed my expectations ever so slightly.
Let me go play with Sokratis' new style - also I found some converted SD7 styles today. Hopefully it's different to my conversions as I did a lot of guesswork on those & they can be made to sound much better than is. Boy! The continued possibilities from my seven year old Audya is still hard to comprehend...
Henni What would interest me most Henri, i have many audio loops, not just drums, but also many many guitar, percusion, bass loops.. now i am wondering why Ketron does not open up the system much more, so people can add their own audio stuff to their selfcreated styles..
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#430373 - 04/03/17 11:50 PM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: Henni]
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Member
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 793
Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion
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Can't believe the following comes from me:
Based purely on the style demos above, talking about styles only, I feel like someone poured cold water over me. I do not understand why it took so long in the making as style wise it's not really so much more advanced from my aging Audya. Yes, sure a good musician will make it talk, but so can one do with my Audya exactly as is too.
I expected many, many more brand new audio guitar loops. I also expected many, many new human voice audio loops. Audio drums does not really impress me all that much over good midi drums, but other audio voices do. Maybe the "pads" will make up for all of this, I honestly don't know.
Not as itchy any more. Should the money come, fine. Should it not, I can still live with what I have.
Sorry if I sound a little negative, but when the Audya came out it was so much different that it was hard to comprehend. Guess I expected too much this time round. For the price of a small car, I just expected to be a little more "wowed".
Two, no make it three things "wowed" me: The country audio guitar loops, the acapella type style & the new blues guitar voice. There might be some other things onboard that I've not heard as yet and I surely hope so.
As for those who do not have the Audya, this will be a HUGE leap forward. Don't be put off by my comments above. Having had the best there is for so long changed my expectations ever so slightly.
Let me go play with Sokratis' new style - also I found some converted SD7 styles today. Hopefully it's different to my conversions as I did a lot of guesswork on those & they can be made to sound much better than is. Boy! The continued possibilities from my seven year old Audya is still hard to comprehend...
Henni Henni... I agree absolutely with you.... So... I think of.... Before one year we had a (pre-presentation) of Ketron the new SD9Pro which, the company wants to replace with this the Audya... (I know that from company).... Ok... Now in new PDF we have some strange news... 1) In the first specifications (2016) there was 700mb Ram... Now in new PDF exist 400mb... Why this downgrading?? 2) In the first PDF (2016) there was: (to create into the machine his own Multisample instruments or Drum sets and store them as resident.)... Now in new PDF there are only 400mb left... Nothing about to create Drums kit with stereo wav Samples... 3) In the first specifications (2016) there was (custom Midi sequences) in Style Modeling...In new PDF silence about this.. And more.... 1) In a new generation Audya (like SD9Pro), I would expect to have the possibility to create my own new audio guitars... Nothing about this...... 2) SSD 16Gb.... I thing very small... Of course its upgradable 240Gb however the price in Thomann is about 270 Euros... 3) The sound of new Styles demos, is not new.... Not really new... And more... Audya=370 Audio Drums, SD9Pro=259 Audio Drums. Audya=159 Audio Guitar Riff, SD9Pro 150 Audio Guitar Riff. And more... I think the best new of SD9Pro, is the LAUNCHPAD.... Realy its a amazing app... However.... The price is about 4000 euros.... Hmmmmmm...... I dont know Ketron... I don know if is it good news... I am waiting the full manual... However I think, this is not a new generation Audya.....
Edited by Sokratis 1974 (04/04/17 12:04 AM)
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Style Producer
Ketron Event, Ketron Audya 76, Audya 5, SD9, SD1,Yamaha Genos, Korg Pa3x, microarranger, Roland Fantom G6, V-Synth XT, XV-5080, SH201, D-50, Novation KS4, Dave Smith Evolver
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#430386 - 04/04/17 05:03 AM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: Sokratis 1974]
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Registered: 03/13/16
Posts: 87
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Can't believe the following comes from me:
Based purely on the style demos above, talking about styles only, I feel like someone poured cold water over me. I do not understand why it took so long in the making as style wise it's not really so much more advanced from my aging Audya. Yes, sure a good musician will make it talk, but so can one do with my Audya exactly as is too.
I expected many, many more brand new audio guitar loops. I also expected many, many new human voice audio loops. Audio drums does not really impress me all that much over good midi drums, but other audio voices do. Maybe the "pads" will make up for all of this, I honestly don't know.
Not as itchy any more. Should the money come, fine. Should it not, I can still live with what I have.
Sorry if I sound a little negative, but when the Audya came out it was so much different that it was hard to comprehend. Guess I expected too much this time round. For the price of a small car, I just expected to be a little more "wowed".
Two, no make it three things "wowed" me: The country audio guitar loops, the acapella type style & the new blues guitar voice. There might be some other things onboard that I've not heard as yet and I surely hope so.
As for those who do not have the Audya, this will be a HUGE leap forward. Don't be put off by my comments above. Having had the best there is for so long changed my expectations ever so slightly.
Let me go play with Sokratis' new style - also I found some converted SD7 styles today. Hopefully it's different to my conversions as I did a lot of guesswork on those & they can be made to sound much better than is. Boy! The continued possibilities from my seven year old Audya is still hard to comprehend...
Henni Henni... I agree absolutely with you.... So... I think of.... Before one year we had a (pre-presentation) of Ketron the new SD9Pro which, the company wants to replace with this the Audya... (I know that from company).... Ok... Now in new PDF we have some strange news... 1) In the first specifications (2016) there was 700mb Ram... Now in new PDF exist 400mb... Why this downgrading?? 2) In the first PDF (2016) there was: (to create into the machine his own Multisample instruments or Drum sets and store them as resident.)... Now in new PDF there are only 400mb left... Nothing about to create Drums kit with stereo wav Samples... 3) In the first specifications (2016) there was (custom Midi sequences) in Style Modeling...In new PDF silence about this.. And more.... 1) In a new generation Audya (like SD9Pro), I would expect to have the possibility to create my own new audio guitars... Nothing about this...... 2) SSD 16Gb.... I thing very small... Of course its upgradable 240Gb however the price in Thomann is about 270 Euros... 3) The sound of new Styles demos, is not new.... Not really new... And more... Audya=370 Audio Drums, SD9Pro=259 Audio Drums. Audya=159 Audio Guitar Riff, SD9Pro 150 Audio Guitar Riff. And more... I think the best new of SD9Pro, is the LAUNCHPAD.... Realy its a amazing app... However.... The price is about 4000 euros.... Hmmmmmm...... I dont know Ketron... I don know if is it good news... I am waiting the full manual... However I think, this is not a new generation Audya..... Really bad news I find it hard to understand this company and its decisions no user drums as msp ?? why??? what??? It is Audya all over again
Edited by Speed (04/04/17 05:07 AM)
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Jacob Ketron SD ONE Roland E-A7
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#430387 - 04/04/17 05:12 AM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: nightowl]
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Member
Registered: 06/06/10
Posts: 793
Loc: Hellas, Creta, Iraklion
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Dear friend... I think is good to wait the full manual...
Yes....The news is not good... However I am waiting the final presentation, and manual..
Best Regards...
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Ketron Event, Ketron Audya 76, Audya 5, SD9, SD1,Yamaha Genos, Korg Pa3x, microarranger, Roland Fantom G6, V-Synth XT, XV-5080, SH201, D-50, Novation KS4, Dave Smith Evolver
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#430433 - 04/05/17 10:20 AM
Re: Ketron SD-9 Pro
[Re: Speed]
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Senior Member
Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Can't believe the following comes from me:
Based purely on the style demos above, talking about styles only, I feel like someone poured cold water over me. I do not understand why it took so long in the making as style wise it's not really so much more advanced from my aging Audya. Yes, sure a good musician will make it talk, but so can one do with my Audya exactly as is too.
I expected many, many more brand new audio guitar loops. I also expected many, many new human voice audio loops. Audio drums does not really impress me all that much over good midi drums, but other audio voices do. Maybe the "pads" will make up for all of this, I honestly don't know.
Not as itchy any more. Should the money come, fine. Should it not, I can still live with what I have.
Sorry if I sound a little negative, but when the Audya came out it was so much different that it was hard to comprehend. Guess I expected too much this time round. For the price of a small car, I just expected to be a little more "wowed".
Two, no make it three things "wowed" me: The country audio guitar loops, the acapella type style & the new blues guitar voice. There might be some other things onboard that I've not heard as yet and I surely hope so.
As for those who do not have the Audya, this will be a HUGE leap forward. Don't be put off by my comments above. Having had the best there is for so long changed my expectations ever so slightly.
Let me go play with Sokratis' new style - also I found some converted SD7 styles today. Hopefully it's different to my conversions as I did a lot of guesswork on those & they can be made to sound much better than is. Boy! The continued possibilities from my seven year old Audya is still hard to comprehend...
Henni Henni... I agree absolutely with you.... So... I think of.... Before one year we had a (pre-presentation) of Ketron the new SD9Pro which, the company wants to replace with this the Audya... (I know that from company).... Ok... Now in new PDF we have some strange news... 1) In the first specifications (2016) there was 700mb Ram... Now in new PDF exist 400mb... Why this downgrading?? 2) In the first PDF (2016) there was: (to create into the machine his own Multisample instruments or Drum sets and store them as resident.)... Now in new PDF there are only 400mb left... Nothing about to create Drums kit with stereo wav Samples... 3) In the first specifications (2016) there was (custom Midi sequences) in Style Modeling...In new PDF silence about this.. And more.... 1) In a new generation Audya (like SD9Pro), I would expect to have the possibility to create my own new audio guitars... Nothing about this...... 2) SSD 16Gb.... I thing very small... Of course its upgradable 240Gb however the price in Thomann is about 270 Euros... 3) The sound of new Styles demos, is not new.... Not really new... And more... Audya=370 Audio Drums, SD9Pro=259 Audio Drums. Audya=159 Audio Guitar Riff, SD9Pro 150 Audio Guitar Riff. And more... I think the best new of SD9Pro, is the LAUNCHPAD.... Realy its a amazing app... However.... The price is about 4000 euros.... Hmmmmmm...... I dont know Ketron... I don know if is it good news... I am waiting the full manual... However I think, this is not a new generation Audya..... Really bad news I find it hard to understand this company and its decisions no user drums as msp ?? why??? what??? It is Audya all over again Since they dont communicate nor listen to their potential clientele... we will never understand their design desigens..
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