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#433743 - 07/01/17 11:24 PM LinnDrum (the original digital machine)
Mark79100 Offline
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I was watching a TV documentary on synths and drum machines. They displayed the LinnDrum which I recall was the first high end machine to use digital samples. I thought they sounded great at the time. After watching these Youtube's, I still think it sounds better than any rhythm section on any arranger keyboard on the market today.

Anyone had any experience with them back in the old days?

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#433748 - 07/02/17 06:21 AM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
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Times have really changed, I don't know much about these Linndrum units as we only used live drummers in the band but as technology prgressed I always used Roland drum machines years back and still partial to the Roland sound today,.. .....

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#433756 - 07/02/17 08:43 AM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
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Went solo with a drum machine after my longtime drummer moved and I couldn't find a suitable replacement. I think I remembr the Korg 55 analog being the first ( now a sought after collectors item ) Then the digital Roland CR1000, then a Roland CR80. Used midi to my main keyboard control the volume and pedals for start stop /fills. You could really squeeze a lot out of thise preset machines and I had a lot of fun playing that way.
Couldn't afford a Linn and I always felt the pregrammable ones were more for recording then live use. Then came Arrangers - don't get me started $$$$
Still miss the simplier times.


Edited by Bill Lewis (07/02/17 08:49 AM)
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#433763 - 07/02/17 12:53 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
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In 1972 I was the first to bring a Rhythm Ace to my B3 organ solo job. It was a posh 5 star restaurant in South Florida where I played 6 nights a week. I had it at home with my B3, so thought I would try it. It surprised a lot of people in a good way until one night this drunk came up on the stage. He disapproved of my innovation in a very loud way until he attracted the attention of "The Don", and I don't mean "The Donald". He was my boss and the owner, weighing about 350 and 6 feet 4". We called him The Don because the restaurant was a "family affair(Mafia). At any rate, he came up on the stage and unceremoniously escorted out the door, among cheers from the patrons.

Good old days
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#433764 - 07/02/17 01:56 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
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The UK "Hit Factory" Stock, Aitken, and Waterman almost always used a Linn drum machine credited as "A.Linn" in the list of musicians.
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#433773 - 07/02/17 04:20 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: MacAllcock]
Mark79100 Offline
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Originally Posted By MacAllcock
The UK "Hit Factory" Stock, Aitken, and Waterman almost always used a Linn drum machine credited as "A.Linn" in the list of musicians.


https://www.discogs.com/artist/355901-A-Linn

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#433774 - 07/02/17 04:30 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
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I was in high school when all those hits were coming out on the Linn and TR 808, and I absolutely hated them! The reason being, is I am a drummer, and in those days I was putting in hours and hours of practice, hoping to become a professional studio drummer. I felt threaten that I wouldn't be able to work as a drummer due to those damn machines.

I remember this really hot popular girl in high school that invited to her father company's Christmas party. She said she wanted me to go with her because her dad hired a live band to play and she knew I was a musician so she thought I'd enjoy it. We arrived at the party, the dance floor was packed. I looked at the band stand and there's a sax player, keyboard and guitar player playing along to a drum machine. I got so pissed, I told the girl that I could not stay. Now I'm embarrassed for being so closed minded, and especially for missing out on what could of been fun evening with the girl. This was probably around the time I read in Modern Drummer magazine, the great big band drummer, Mel Lewis saying that he wanted to blow up the Linn Drum factory up for putting so many drummers out of work!

I saw how popular those sterile drum tracks were so I decided "if I couldn't beat them, I'd join them" I went out and got a Yamaha drum machine and learned how to program it really well. I got to do lots of
studio demos. I just learned it was another tool, times were changing and some times you have to roll with it or get left behind. I realized that programmed drum tracks were just a different popular style. There will always be a demand for great live drummers. Nothing beats the real thing!
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#433775 - 07/02/17 04:31 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: Mark79100]
montunoman Offline
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Originally Posted By Mark79100
. After watching these Youtube's, I still think it sounds better than any rhythm section on any arranger keyboard on the market today.


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Really?
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#433777 - 07/02/17 05:28 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: montunoman]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Originally Posted By montunoman
I was in high school when all those hits were coming out on the Linn and TR 808, and I absolutely hated them! The reason being, is I am a drummer, and in those days I was putting in hours and hours of practice, hoping to become a professional studio drummer. I felt threaten that I wouldn't be able to work as a drummer due to those damn machines.

I remember this really hot popular girl in high school that invited to her father company's Christmas party. She said she wanted me to go with her because her dad hired a live band to play and she knew I was a musician so she thought I'd enjoy it. We arrived at the party, the dance floor was packed. I looked at the band stand and there's a sax player, keyboard and guitar player playing along to a drum machine. I got so pissed, I told the girl that I could not stay. Now I'm embarrassed for being so closed minded, and especially for missing out on what could of been fun evening with the girl. This was probably around the time I read in Modern Drummer magazine, the great big band drummer, Mel Lewis saying that he wanted to blow up the Linn Drum factory up for putting so many drummers out of work!

I saw how popular those sterile drum tracks were so I decided "if I couldn't beat them, I'd join them" I went out and got a Yamaha drum machine and learned how to program it really well. I got to do lots of
studio demos. I just learned it was another tool, times were changing and some times you have to roll with it or get left behind. I realized that programmed drum tracks were just a different popular style. There will always be a demand for great live drummers. Nothing beats the real thing!



I felt the same way about DJ's but like it or not times change. I still don't really like DJing but I "rolled with it"
Seems to be a demand for Bass players here. Not so much for drummers or keyboards.
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#433788 - 07/02/17 10:59 PM Re: LinnDrum (the original digital machine) [Re: montunoman]
Mark79100 Offline
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Originally Posted By montunoman
Originally Posted By Mark79100
. After watching these Youtube's, I still think it sounds better than any rhythm section on any arranger keyboard on the market today.


Really?


I meant the quality of sound.....thick as a brick. Today's synths have snare drums that sound like somebody snapping their fingers and cymbals and high-hats sounding like bacon frying in a pan. I'll go as far as to say my original Maestro Rhythm King had more punch to it even.

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