As to your video, anyone who thinks musicians are evolving into a bunch of button-pushers and sample players should watch this video. THIS is where music is going and this is what the next generation of musicians will aspire too, mastery of the instrument,
chas

Although we can hope, ....the people have spoken worldwide...numbers don't lie,.....DJ's vs Musicians in today's world,....yes there's room for all,.....but the majority leans toward the high world of buttons and samples, etc,....nothing wrong with that after all they are mastering their craft also, no need to downplay their art form they too are creating music, there will always be haters,....I just keep an open mind and always "absorb" the best from it all,....there is good and bad in all music no matter how its performed..

btw kool video

Being a DJ is a different skill to being a musician. I don't think there's any argument that there is however skill involved. But whether that can really be put on the same level as a musician that has trained for years to produce original music is a whole different argument .

Staying true to this thread and using an example that actually proves the point that it doesn't take a lot of talent to get people to dance as a DJ ,have a look at this YouTube clip and then tell me how long you think this person actually took to throw the stuff together.

Also she gets regular bookings and probably earns more through her "musical skill " than most of us .

https://youtu.be/HtBWqYBcchk

I hope this settles the argument 😅

All you have really said is that all forms of music such as trance hip-hop et cetera required skill to make. No one is denying that there are other genres of music that require musical skill. But the DJ does not create any music. A DJ plays someone else's music. DJ stops and starts someone else's music. DJ fades in and fades out someone else's music. If the DJ is truly a musician. Then take away other peoples music from his set and let me see him or her make music.

You see the heart of this discussion and the problem here, is that you need to define the what a musician is . a musician can actually create original music, whether that's playing chords or melody line or rhythm or singing or all of those forms. What does DJ to create music if he or she does not already have someone else's music to work with?

But the DJ does not create any music. A DJ plays someone else's music. DJ stops and starts someone else's music. DJ fades in and fades out someone else's music.

I think we can all agree that a DJ is NOT a musician. But...he IS an artist and you've got to respect that. Most of us, including myself, could not put those samples, and loops, and snippets together to make a piece an hour long that flows from one sound (and sound idea) to another. It's no different than what a producer does to produce a hit song or what a movie producer does. Puts it all together.

Ummm, just what every budding musician aspires to, becoming a DJ. But the theme of this (and the original post) was LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with THIS debate. THIS went south after the HIJACK which is why hijacking a post is so annoying and why people should not support of contribute to the NEW narrative that the hijacker has created. If a post triggers a new thought, then start a new post. It's the respectful thing to do. Thankfully, most posters understand that.

chas