A nice informational video abou getting realistic results when playing other instruments on your keyboard.

http://keyszone.boards.net/thread/369/playing-instruments-on-keyboard

Thank you Bachus, very informative. I must remember to get away from the split LH chord and RH melody when not using accomp., or use chord sequencer.

Great Video.
Thanks
Eric

Bachus good video on a much overlooked subject.

Thank you, John C.

I think he overlooked something very important that a lot of people forget, even though it's stating the obvious.
You must play within the range of the instrument you are emulating. Sax, trumpet, harmonica, banjo, etc., have a limited range of notes that they can play, and even some of them vary. For instance Tenor Sax, Alto, Sax, Baritone... have different ranges of notes. When you start playing outside those ranges the realism can't be achieved.
The most important thing he said was to use your ears. Listen to the real instruments and play something that sounds like that!
He didn't get into pitch bend, modulation or joy stick use very much, but it is greatly important in emulating most instruments. That involves not only proper usage of the wheels, but also how and when you move your hand from the chords to the wheels. Chord sequencer helps a lot of course; then you don't have to worry about it.
It's great that modern arrangers have a lot of the nuances built in, or available through touch, fingering or buttons, while evidently the Kurtzweiler samples don't.
How would like to have to push three or four buttons to call up a sound, like he did?!!
He sure is a good player!

Do a search I have talked about is subject so many times thru the years here on SZ its a pet peeve of mine...
knowing how to play and instrument on a keyboard correctly in a way that is within it's perimeters is an art form in itself that's must be mastered first......you can't play a sound of an instrument on KB that could never be done if it was played on that instrument in the first place if you get my drift..

Thank You Bachus.

Funny how all keyboard players want to sound like a guitar player, and guitar players are happy with their instrument, and don't want to sound like a keyboard.

Good video, Bachus. And, I tend to agree with Don Mason on this subject. I am amazed at the number of times that I hear someone play a brass instrument on the keyboard as if the player never ran out of breath.

Thanks again,

Gary

Here a chart of the natural ranges of instruments and voices..




It quickly shows we tend to play many instruments above their range..
I think Roland therefor transposes many instruments and octave down..
Also on my pa4x many right hand voices in keyboardsets are transposed down an octave..

I cannot picture playing a trumpet with a piano in mind. Each instrument favors a style. A sax is expressive and uses scales. A trumpet is trying to reach that high not unlike the sax. And playing out of range – As you go out of range the instrument no longer sounds like the instrument. My biggest problem is trying to make a country guitar sound like a country guitar –ala Don.

From the beginning I tried to make my keyboard sound like the original instrument. I am not exalting myself here, it is just the way I was taught to think.

No I am not a Sinatra, but I have been told I phrase my singing in the same way. I must have been listening. My favorite guitar player was Johnny Smith. Got every record he recorded; saw him play many times. There were many books on his style of playing; never bought a one. But right up to today you can hear his style it in my playing. Listening.

I am in agreement with what has been written here; it’s all about listening.

John C.
PS, as soon as I can get my act together I am going to post some songs and then wait for suggestions of how to improve. It’s a fantastic way to improve. In the Kn7000 days Bebop started one-song-for –twenty. You sent him one song and he sent you twenty songs that were recorded by other members. Great idea. I vote that Donny start something along the same line, he is always here. (smile)