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#444828 - 01/16/18 08:14 AM Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action
KeyboardByBiggs Offline
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Registered: 01/13/18
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Just saw this Kickstarter for adding arranger functions to guitars. Didn't the guitarists make fun of us arranger players? smile

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/187...68-567fc48c3312


Edited by KeyboardByBiggs (01/16/18 08:15 AM)
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#444829 - 01/16/18 08:31 AM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: KeyboardByBiggs]
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Know how to find a good guitar player? Order a pizza....ok, this was a drummer joke, but thought it might apply to the thread smile
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#444832 - 01/16/18 08:56 AM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: KeyboardByBiggs]
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I don't think that will catch on. Guitarists are all into looping now. They do one part at a time and then when finished with their bass, drums and three chord sequence they sing over it. Takes 5 minutes to start the song so with the singing they can kill a good amount of time on stage and the audience has something to watch. They see the song built from scratch, unlike us we hit play and its all there.
Midi guitars have been around a long time and I've never seen one used live.


Edited by Bill Lewis (01/16/18 08:57 AM)
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#444841 - 01/16/18 10:18 AM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: Bill Lewis]
Beakybird Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
I don't think that will catch on. Guitarists are all into looping now. They do one part at a time and then when finished with their bass, drums and three chord sequence they sing over it. Takes 5 minutes to start the song so with the singing they can kill a good amount of time on stage and the audience has something to watch. They see the song built from scratch, unlike us we hit play and its all there.
Midi guitars have been around a long time and I've never seen one used live.

I think it will catch on because you can play complex progressions on the fly. I see limitations though. What happens to the chord progression when you start riffing?

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#444846 - 01/16/18 11:49 AM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: Beakybird]
guitpic1 Offline
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How about dancing through all these hoops just to get what an arranger can do?

https://youtu.be/ltSMv0Qe3rE
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#444847 - 01/16/18 12:12 PM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: guitpic1]
sparky589 Offline
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I saw a guitar guy do something similar with a multi effects pedal at a bar. Problem was he created every chord sequence and additional riff live, then saved them to a preset, then did the song. No advance prep, so he took so long he only really had to do 5 songs per set. Nice to get club owners to pay you for your song create time, while we do it at home then have to play a lot more songs to fill in set time for the same money.


Edited by sparky589 (01/16/18 12:13 PM)
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#444850 - 01/16/18 12:53 PM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: KeyboardByBiggs]
Tonewheeldude Offline
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I know several guitarists that use Audya 4 module, both with Midi Guitars and pedals. (accordionists too). I tried to introduce arranger modules to some harmonica players...but they dont want to spend more than £30 on anything laugh

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#444851 - 01/16/18 12:53 PM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: sparky589]
captain Russ Offline
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Actually, some of us ancient "pickers and grinners" started off our "single" acts playing something like arrangers. They were called Auto Orchestras. There was a controller and a set of 13 bass pedals. You held the root note with your left foot and activated minors, 7ths, etc with your heel. the controller was the equivalent of the brains of an arranger, with different drum, solo and other options, like drum breaks, endings etc.

I think it was a Solton product, which is the predecessor of the Ketron line.Mine still works, and you can re-create the unit combining a Ketron "brain" and bass pedals.

Put myself thru graduate school with one of these little deals.

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#444854 - 01/16/18 01:02 PM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: captain Russ]
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There ya go

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#444855 - 01/16/18 01:08 PM Re: Guitarists Are Getting In On the Arranger Action [Re: KeyboardByBiggs]
Saswick Offline
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This Guy use's a Pa800 with midi bass pedals.



I sent him a load of styles a few years ago.

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