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#447172 - 02/22/18 08:31 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Dnj]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Maybe a bit off base of the thread but I use my FP90 pianos to just play with no accompiament or vocals. Back to basics training of playing with two hands and thinking more of harmonies and melody lines.
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#447173 - 02/22/18 08:40 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Bill Lewis]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Maybe a bit off base of the thread but I use my FP90 pianos to just play with no accompiament or vocals. Back to basics training of playing with two hands and thinking more of harmonies and melody lines.


nothing wrong with that Bill,......brings back the way we played years ago before arranger KB,.....many people got spoiled with "Automatic style play" instead of being the player without it,....
but hey, technology moves forward.. keep doin, what your doin, take care..

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#447183 - 02/22/18 12:01 PM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
Bachus sounds like you are all set!


For now, i am..

But still looking forward to the moment there will be one 88 Keyboard that can do all and everything i mentioned above..



Bachus, if such a thing as an 88 key(weighted?) arranger was to exist, would it be mobile?

Or would it be too heavy to gig with?


88 keys hammeraction does not have to be extremely heavy to have a top performance

The Nord stage 88 weights 17 kg and has top knotch action
Its the most used keyboard on stage in europe.a
The Casio PX-5S amd px 560 are even lighter then the genos.

Both have better keybeds then for example the yamaha MOXF8

So an 88 key arranger does not have to be heavy..

And of you want even better keybeds,
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#451127 - 04/26/18 10:26 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Bernie9]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
I am not sure how to do this, but--


Bernie...I had to look at your rig again what more do you need to play/sing live gigs...sweet! cool2



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Edited by Dnj (04/26/18 10:28 AM)

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#451129 - 04/26/18 10:48 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Dnj]
Bachus Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Bernie9
I am not sure how to do this, but--


Bernie...I had to look at your rig again what more do you need to play/sing live gigs...sweet! cool2



Love this setup to...

With the sd90 around the corner, i am seriously considering a Nord-stage/sd90/mac setup...

Or an sd90/Montage/analogue synth module/mac... as i am having so much fun with the arps of my Motif XS rack.... (yes, i like yamaha arps currentlu better then Karma)


Edited by Bachus (04/26/18 10:48 AM)
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#451133 - 04/26/18 12:24 PM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Dnj]
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Yes, really this is all I would need for anything I do, since I am not into EDM. Even if I delved into it, I have my PA4x KAOSS. The thing is, I don't NEED anything else, but programming all my different boards with different styles and sounds is fun for me. If I were to play every song I have on all my KB's, it would take a very,very long time. I don't care, it keeps me interested every day, and that is worth a lot. Thanks for asking.
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#451135 - 04/26/18 12:55 PM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Dnj]
cgiles Offline
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I have to revise my wishlist. It now only contains the Crumar Seven, which I have on backorder. I tend to like instruments that aren't 'yesterday's news' after 6 months. If, no, WHEN I downsize (house), THIS will be my FINAL CONFIGURATION:

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KEYS

KeyB Duo MK111 (or Legend smile )/Leslie 3300
Crumar Seven
Roland BK7m
Roland VP770
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PA

Analog (or Hybrid) 24ch mixer (probably StudioLive)
EV SXA250 pair
Traynor K4 (for the Crumar Seven)
Leslie 3300

-plus-

Some miscellaneous recording gear
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Since I already own 95% of this gear, it'll be more a case of getting rid of stuff. Except for the 'Seven', I haven't suffered from gear lust for some time now. Of course my impulse buying hasn't gone away, just shifted in another direction smile.

chas
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#451153 - 04/26/18 11:53 PM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
Pa4x is my main all around board, but, in the meantime, am still learning both the SD40 and SK1, but forgot to mention that I tried adding my Asus Transformer netbook, loaded with Notate Composer 3, which is my notation program for SMF. I have hundreds of tunes converted from SMF to Notation format. All sound is from SD40 and it displays my full or lead score with chords, lyrics, and scrolling notation for singing and/or playing over. So now I have a neat lightweight rig of three pieces able to handle anything I need.

My Pa4x can do the same thing, but as good as it's drawbars are, it is not the SK1. I could midi the two together, but is too bulky and heavy for what I do, so both are great in their own way.

Bernie, sounds like you are getting your gear the way you want. Just a thought, (a bit late now), but did you think of trying midi drawbars with the PA4X at all? It is a smaller foot print and like you mention, you still had the PA4X and it did everything you wanted anyway'.
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#451155 - 04/27/18 02:04 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Dnj]
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Hi tassiespirit,
Please elaborate. My goal was the addition of a clone that is lightweight and with a credible Leslie sim. I have a Neo Ventilator which gives me a great Leslie when used with good samples. The problem is that you have to have stereo sub outs, which I have on my Audya, but the samples are not as good as the SK1. The Pa4X is close, but not quite there. I, also, am a big fan of the Ketron sound, hence, the SD40.

If there is something I missed, I would like to hear it. Thanks.
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#451181 - 04/27/18 11:02 AM Re: Who has NON Arranger Keyboards & Why? [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
Maybe a bit off base of the thread but I use my FP90 pianos to just play with no accompiament or vocals. Back to basics training of playing with two hands and thinking more of harmonies and melody lines.


I'm with Bill I have been playing more piano than I had been the last few years. I'm using the Clavinova CVP307 minus the arranger features. I'm in the process of sharpening up my piano chops for the weekly piano gig I have next year when I'm back in Florida for the winter months. This year I got tired of rotating the same 40 tunes for the 1 hour gig. Piano is my first love but have much more fun with the arrangers.


Edited by Stephenm52 (04/27/18 11:03 AM)
Edit Reason: spelling correction

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